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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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SolarLab

Quote from: bistander on December 20, 2022, 03:13:58 PM
Hi SL,

"Petty bickering and slanderish comments" you say. Please give me an example of a slanderish comment that you have seen from me. And is it petty bickering to ask a poster to clarify a meaningless term or word that Google doesn't even recognize?

I think it was only several hundred posts on that thread so I'll reread. Started to, many towards the end were petty bickering, but you can't blame me over there.

The only thing that I am owed here is some basic respect and not expected to believe or overlook obvious mistakes and falsehoods, and made-up terms. A forum of nonsensical typed characters and fantasy scribbles isn't much fun and doesn't promote "our" cause. As ramset often writes, let's work together. Do you know what "ruhu emf vector" means? Anybody?
Thanks,
bi

The quoted post above (yours) is a very good example...

What is it's "value add" with respect to the subject matter - nothing, absolutely nothing!

"ruhu emf vector" "please define Bm, Bi, & -E." ... = petty crap - looking for a typo or a missing sub-script to carry on about.

Slanderish comments - see your recent posts above.  ...
If you have something of value, post it; otherwise shove it - you know where!

And yes, your not alone, in the "slinging useless garbage" crowd. Seems to be a favourite full time job for some. Not very productive!

You are getting all the respect you deserve; from me.

bistander

Quote from: SolarLab on December 20, 2022, 05:44:11 PM


The quoted post above (yours) is a very good example...

What is it's "value add" with respect to the subject matter - nothing, absolutely nothing!

"ruhu emf vector" "please define Bm, Bi, & -E." ... = petty crap - looking for a typo or a missing sub-script to carry on about.

Slanderish comments - see your recent posts above.  ...
If you have something of value, post it; otherwise shove it - you know where!

And yes, your not alone, in the "slinging useless garbage" crowd. Seems to be a favourite full time job for some. Not very productive!

You are getting all the respect you deserve; from me.

Hi SL,

You say ""ruhu emf vector" "please define Bm, Bi, & -E." ... = petty crap - looking for a typo or a missing sub-script to carry on about."

How is simply and respectfully requesting clarification on an ambiguous term in a response on the topic considered "slinging useless garbage"? I was attempting to understand his message so I could add value.

Does your CAE use this equation?
Quote from: rakarskiy on December 18, 2022, 01:52:39 AM
...
Bm = -E:  -E = Bi;   (Bm= Bi) 
...

bi

SolarLab

 Yea right! Nice try - but I'm not biting (too transparent, been used to many times)...

Look at (study) the B-H Loop that was recently posted - if you can't see it, no worries! It
will have absolutely no effect on anything. Important - yes -but only if you are developing
a system and, if that's the case, it will become (or is) intuitively obvious.

B-H Loop post:
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg572470/#msg572470

Also, have a look at any CAE Documentation - then you will be able to answer your own
questions, plus you will have learned a lot by reading it yourself. No one can learn it for you.

Famous saying:

"You can give a man a Fish and he will eat for a day OR you can teach a man to Fish
  and he will be able to eat forever!"

Quote from: bistander on December 20, 2022, 06:23:10 PM
Hi SL,

You say ""ruhu emf vector" "please define Bm, Bi, & -E." ... = petty crap - looking for a typo or a missing sub-script to carry on about."

How is simply and respectfully requesting clarification on an ambiguous term in a response on the topic considered "slinging useless garbage"? I was attempting to understand his message so I could add value.

Does your CAE use this equation?
bi


Original rakarskiy post:

As for the ruhu emf vector around the conductor, there is no time. This is the continuation and essence of a separate work.

As for the Holcomb generator, it has the physical movement of a magnetic field, analogous to the movement in a mechanical generator.
This is what distinguishes a generator from a transformer.
I won't go into details as research is still ongoing. I'm not designing a Holcomb machine, I'm doing an impulse system. It is more
difficult for me to reach full hysteresis.

Also, the diagram poseted here:
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg572484/#msg572484

- say no more...

Edit: changed lower case "h" to upper case "H" in "B-H Loop" - oh no, call the petty police!  ::)

bistander

SL,
I know the answer. And I know electric machine fundamentals, theories and design practices as well as materials, fabrication and testing. I was trying to help. That's all. Why are you beating me up? Let's get back on-topic and look at where on the B H curve Holcomb's device functions. That's why I've mentioned a FEMM 2-D cross section of the magnetic circuit. There would be value.
bi

bistander

Quote from: SolarLab on December 18, 2022, 09:24:03 PM


Hi Partsman,

Saturation and Hysteresis are somewhat interlinked (sorry but the animated gif linking these won't post). Anyway:

Remant Flux Density (Br) [Coercivity of material]

From the full Four Quadrant Hysteresis Curve of a ferromagnetic material it can be seen that when the Applied Field (H in amp-turns)
is removed (H = 0) there is still some induction remaining in the material; even though H=0 there is a remant flux density, or Br as
shown in the full Hysteresis Curve.

This may restrict the full use of the B-H in a pulsed system and may also result in hysteresis losses for AC drive signals. Br is shown in
the attached Hysteresis Curve from the Arnold Magnetic Technologies - Designing with Thin Guage presentation:

https://www.arnoldmagnetics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Designing-with-Thin-Guage-presentation-1.pdf

This presentation is worth the read IMHO.

Page/Figure 29 - 1: Hysteresis Curve
> Hysteresis Curve B-sub-r [H: Proj_Steel\Arnold_Magnetics]

One possible fix would be to somehow use the Coil Flyback when the pulse is removed (BEMF quickly falls to a large negative value) to
briefly excite the coil (or a second coil on the pole) thus driving the Pole back, or near to, its initial 0 value (removing or adjusting the
Coercivity). Actual circuit techniques are TBD. Flyback pulse depiction is attached.

This problem - solution requires more analysis and design work.

Kind of a disjointed post but hopefully has some useful information.

SL

This book "Dynamo-electric Machinery: A Manual for Students of Electrotechniques by Sylvanus Phillips Thompson S.Sc., B.A.
London Technical Colledge 1888" goes through the development process of "B-H discovery."

https://books.google.com/books/about/Dynamo_electric_Machinery.html?id=i34AAAAAMAAJ

Chapter XIV. Field-Magnets and Magnatism ... Page 288

https://books.google.com/books?id=i34AAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA288&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hi SL,
As long as you've gone off-topic into pettiness, how's this one? In your post to Pm, shown above, you say "Remant Flux Density (Br) [Coercivity of material]"
I assume that you meant to type the word remanent. As see here:

QuoteRemanence or remanent magnetization or residual magnetism is the magnetization left behind in a ferromagnetic material (such as iron) after an external magnetic field is removed
.
from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remanence

Also note Remanent flux density is not the same as Coercivity of material, which your statement of  "Remant Flux Density (Br) [Coercivity of material]" seems to imply.

The two quantities are clearly shown on your included B H curve.

I noticed this before, but didn't want to appear petty, until now.
bi