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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

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SolarLab


CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For

Normally I would cut the nonesense posts off before they propagate to a stupid level,
however I let this series roll to bring out a very important point that we all face when using these
public forums. The following is from a old lecture but is still valid today.

How to Quickly Spot a "CLOWN" (some insight from the Experts(?)) Just so you can recognize it for what it is.
The term "CLOWN" as used here is generic and includes "TROLLs" and "LARPs,."

Don't get suckered into wasting your time. Hardened anons should already know this stuff; This is
more a crash course for new visitors.

Good stuff to be aware of; even if it would never happen here!

They will:

- Attempt to get a divisive or emotional response from you to derail research.

- Concern troll and copy/pasta spam shill to contradict confirmed findings.

- Employ faux debate tactics: Generalizations, gas-lighting, projection, misdirection, false equivalences, confusing
correlation with causation, appeal to authority, transference, false precepts, personal attacks, straw-men, red herrings, etc.

- Promote social ethics that are disingenuous like doxxing, "reverse psychology", or promoting propaganda.

- Promote tactics that are unethical, illegal or involve methods outside the scope of the Law.

- Employ Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to dissuade research.

Topic sliding - If information of a valuable or informative nature has been posted on a discussion forum, it can be quickly
removed from public view by topic sliding. 

In this technique a large number of unrelated posts, or posts aimed at diluting the information presented, are submitted in
an effort to trigger a topic slide to literally push content out of view. Operators can control several fake UIDs via the bots they
make use of; these can also be called upon in the other techniques to mask the intent of the operator from the users at large.

Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting, unless the thread is moderated, the post is now lost in a sea of
unrelated and bogus postings.

Seeding bad information - Operatives will insert flawed or bogus information from time to time as an ongoing tactic, depending
on their skill set and the needs of their mission. Their most common ruse is providing information or evidence which is backed by
bad source material in the hope that the "source of the source" is never checked. This serves several objectives,
mainly resource consumption, evidence pollution, discouragement and misdirection.

Astroturfing consensus -This is a technique that attempts to build a manufactured consensus around a flawed set of statements
or compromised information. This is related to consensus cracking, where false evidence is injected in an attempt to dispute or
discredit what the current consensus is, and push it towards the desired false consensus.  Misleading and false evidence and
information are often salted into the evidence pool, with an aim to impede organic consensus building, while also poisoning the
available information and evidence.

Cultivating tacit approval (The legal term for this is 'silent agreement') - Attempting to attain this state is done using a
technique where operators will try to convince the user population to ignore, or not respond to bad information or false assertions.
This is done in a bid to reduce push-back against the above mentioned tactics.

It's worth noting that the reply filtering mechanism of the boards (which currently can't be disabled without code changes from
the site admin) is used as a weapon of sorts in this tactic: Filtering with software prevents anons from defending against seeding
bad information and astroturfing consensus. This is why the CLOWNS (operators) push so hard to condition anons into filtering
material they disagree with.

Also worth noting is it can be proven in many cases that the vast majority of these CLOWNS are well trained, well paid,
some are highly skilled, and they will often accuse you of the very "things" that they, themselves, are engaged in...
and they often work in groups while using numerious synms...

So be vigilant - it only takes one Clown to ruin a discussion or thread. Many good posters will not post or
simply leave once a Clown invades the thread.

Have a good day and happy posting...





rakarskiy

Quote from: Ufopolitics on January 18, 2023, 01:16:32 PM

Rakarskiy,

I did not "decided"...Figuera did... ;D

Figuera just commutates through an ALWAYS Single Positive Brush, while ALL the other Coils terminals are connected to negative ground.
The commutator is wired in order to pass by the resistors or inductors in between for 180°, to deliver the ups 180° and downs 180°of the signal....which looks like two inverted square Pyramids.

Man, I did Figuera like 10 plus years ago...in real Lab Testing!!
Sorry, but you can not argue with me, how Figuera works...because I have tried every single possibility out there.

Ufopolitics


Edit: Image taken from: https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-44267-year-1908/

https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-clemente-figuera-44267.pdf
http://www.rexresearch.com/figuera/figuera.htm

I absolutely agree that there is no exact indication of whether a complete flow change occurs or not on a Clemente Figuera machine.
There is only one explicit indication, this is the simulation of the operation of an electromechanical dynamo.
True, there are some issues that need to be addressed. I, like many others, fell for this. I have a very strong belief that something in the patents themselves has been changed.
Why, because there are two formulas for the EMF of the generator and differ radically in the principle of inducing EMF in the conductor.


PS
2π : √2  = 4,44


kolbacict

I just thought, if we are an ordinary DC motor with permanent magnets, we will fix the rotor to the fixed support on one side on one support, and we will rotate the stator.
Then we will get a multi-phase sinusoidal signal on the fixed collector of this engine with a frequency proportional to the speed of rotation of the stator.
Which we can output with the help of wires to our Holcomb device under study.
I don't know if you understood me, maybe you can't do without a drawing ... :)

bistander

Quote from: rakarskiy on January 19, 2023, 11:40:38 AM...
Why, because there are two formulas for the EMF of the generator and differ radically in the principle of inducing EMF in the conductor.
...
Hi rakarskiy,
Those two equations are the same, just each reduced for ease of use in rectilinear vs polar coordinates.
Flux = B * A     A is area
A/s = l * v      length is perpendicular to velocity
B*l*v = Flux/s = V      V is voltage
k * Flux * f = Flux/s     frequency is (per second)
k is constant relating polar to rectilinear (circular area)
minus sign is Lenz law, not required in first equation because B is vector having proper direction.
Substitute in units for variables and equality is apparent.
What do you see as a radically different principle?
bi

SolarLab

 Further to my "CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For" post above:

Since many of these Clown/Trolls are paid for posting and sometimes paid even more when you respond to their posts;
they can be quite persistant, as we have all seen, even to the point of being pesky. This is easily observed in many cases.

The best defence against this is to "Simply DO NO RESPOND" to them. Often times they will just "move on to another
thread" where they can gain a little more for their time and effort.

Clown Trolls can be a real problem, but exposing them and knowing how to mitigate their affect on a subject goes a long
way in combating this plague.