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The basic requirements to obtain free electricity.

Started by Cadman, February 10, 2023, 07:28:38 AM

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Cadman

What is it we really want here? Isn't it free electricity? Something with substantial volts and amps?

Start by paying attention to the pioneers. The experimenters, scientists and physicists in the past who 'discovered' and worked with electricity. There were no laws or definitions or even terminology for it back then. It was more like 'Hey, I have an idea. Let's try it and see what happens.' They invented the terminology to describe volts, amps, and magnetic fields. They didn't know what it was but they figured out how to work with it and use it using their own terminology.

At it's most fundamental level we still don't know what electricity is but we don't need to know that much detail. We only need to know the basics to get started.

What are the basics, the foundation to build upon?

Definition of a volt.
One volt is the potential difference between two points that will impart one joule of energy per coulomb of charge that passes through it. The pioneers thought of potential difference as tension.

Definition of an amp.
One ampere is equal to 1 coulomb or 6.241509074×1018 electrons worth of charge moving past a point in one second. So what's a coulomb?  6.241509074×1018 electrons.

Those two definitions tell you what needs to be done. You have to bring charges (coulombs/electrons) into the system and raise the tension on those charges to move them past a point in the circuit at the rate required to obtain the amperage you want. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anything that aids that goal is worth investigation. Anything that does not, is noise.




Edit: corrected 1018 to 1018

Dog-One

I can't disagree with this mission statement.

I will add, when you say volts and amps, how about we use a single term and
say power, where power relates to a time interval.  This interval can be long or
short, but must be defined and consistent whenever applied to a device
measurement.

For electrical devices, yes we need tension and flow of charge.  In my opinion,
I think we should focus on having two discrete sources, one of tension and
another of charge flow and come up with a means of mixing these two sources
in such a way where we get the combined benefit of each source to produce
an output that is greater than the sum of the two parts.  This output needs to
be able to supply each of the two source inputs while having excess to do
useful work as well as demonstrate self sustained operation.  How that is
accomplished is up to the researcher and likely has multiple avenues of
success.

DUT Relationships:
Pin1 --> Pout1
Pout1 < Pin1
Pin2 --> Pout2
Pout2 < Pin2
PDUTin --> PDUTout
PDUTin = Pout1 + Pout2
PDUTout > Pin1 + Pin2

Cadman

Quote from: Dog-One on February 10, 2023, 08:21:16 AM

...
I will add, when you say volts and amps, how about we use a single term and
say power, ....


The only thing I have against that is it diverts the focus from the two distinct components of electricity, volts and coulombs, and lumps them into a third form. Each component is obtainable separately and it's important not to lose focus on this fact. Power and energy come after volts and coulombs are obtained.

I absolutely agree otherwise. Good input  :)

Edit: One more point I would like to make. Free electricity does not require self running or over unity. Worthy goals but not requirements.


stivep

Quote from: Cadman on February 10, 2023, 08:41:36 AM
Free electricity does not require self running or over unity. Worthy goals but not requirements.
overunity doesn't exist.
self running exists if mechanism of powering the device even if it's not visible to the naked eye
uses energy conversion from one form to the other.
or we are dealing with energy transfer.

the example of energy conversion is Lithuania experiment.
https://overunity.com/19335/lithuania-ou-experiment-wesleys-theory-schematic-explanationstep-by-step/msg573325/#msg573325
https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/15/The
likelyhood   determined during  a test points at energy conversion due to transmutation taking place in ferrite.
The example of energy transfer is Dr. James Corum  energy transfer from point A to point B.

Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #274 on: September 06, 2021, 11:12:16 PM »
- single wire energy transfer  is also sending energy in form of electromagnetic wave the interface between wire and dielectric insulation of the wire .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dewI_VVMb38



commercial application for energy transfer is strip waveguide or slab waveguide.
https://www.comsol.com/model/dielectric-slab-waveguide-14709

here is another look at  Nikola Tesla using Earth to transmit energy .
you need to look at in  not from the perspective of  solid knowledge, but from the perspective
of interest of selling the book by the author of this video, who is likely the writer of the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GSHRgV9SM

Energy transfer from point A to point B in Near Field  is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndX9F8LNjNM
Explanation what is: Near Field is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoSsVEXzAck


as an entertainment you may also look at not related to this subject but related to Nikola Tesla  video
On the likely same guy trying to make money on something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HHP2aZfp5I Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter - First Ever Full Explanation


Wesley

Cadman

Quote from: stivep on February 10, 2023, 11:08:18 AM
overunity doesn't exist.
self running exists if mechanism of powering the device even if it's not visible to the naked eye
uses energy conversion from one form to the other.
or we are dealing with energy transfer.
....
Wesley

Wesly,
You are absolutely right. OU does not exist because humans cannot create something from nothing.
And that does not mean self running along with a usable electrical output is not possible.