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Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)

Started by drspark, January 27, 2007, 09:25:42 AM

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electrostatic

Quote from: drspark on February 24, 2007, 07:53:04 PM


Time to settle this, on the bench!

Spark.


Hi Spark,

Since there where two different setups on this page 

I just wanted to check something out with you.
Was the battery input on this http://drspark.com/12vbulbs.jpg
pulsed at 1/6 cycle compared to the output bulb?
Like this diagram  http://drspark.com/capamp.jpg

Or like this one where the battery is always in the circuit
http://drspark.com/2cycle.jpg which I think would need
A different explanation to show the extra cycles through
The output bulb..

ADDED:

Ok, the explanation for this http://drspark.com/2cycle.jpg
would be the same as for this one http://drspark.com/capamp.jpg

Only slightly different.

In the shown switching position you have a LC tank circuit
Comprising of  C1 +C2 in parallel through L1+L2
To C3+C4 in series. This is a ringing circuit (AC) which would have the same effect
as the manual (extra cycles) switching of  http://drspark.com/capamp.jpg

So the first explanation still holds I think.

Cliff,

pese

Some members ask me for this scematics.
possibly (sure) it cant work
because TR1 primare the bottom winding are
shortet with centertap via C4 against ground - and also the
food-end of this windings are SHORTET with C7 +C8 against
Ground.
So never an Frequency can bee transformed , and never start up
any Voltage to selfrunning  or only running.

never have this worked , possible als an error in desing.
Inventor will find out this...

Gustav Pese
Skype Member: pesetr (daily 21:00-22:00 MEZ (Berlin) Like to discussing. German English Flam's French. Special knowledges in "electronic area need?
ask by messey, will help- so i can...

drspark

Hi Electrostatic,

There are 3 versions of this circuit now up on my site.
The first one i built back in 1993 had 7 reed relays and was controled by computer useing the printer port output byte, it ran as described and was dismissed by a freind as a simple transformer.

But, it sure seemed strange to be able to burn a resister thru another identical resister, and since in theroy and practice this cap bouncing effect divides the voltage in halve and also *should* double the current.

But still the resister at the load point burns instead of one being twice as hot as the other...   

I left it on my site as a definite possability imho.

years later Igor added a transformer at the load point and the power connection to the middle of that, as soon as I saw that I started playing with the simulator and repeated my result from many years ago. So next i order a 4pole relay and a caps to try it again, same result as before, slightly different because you cant have any number of BC cycles (as per v1 capamp.jpg) but the same thing happens, the caps bounce the *charge* from one side to the other thru the t1 (like a push pull amp?)  and whenever there is an inballance in the voltage of the supply current flows untill the state changes or it equalizes, when the caps go series the voltage is greater than the supply so the inballance causes a flow back, now add in fact that the caps dont compleatly discharge every step or *state* the requirements from the battery decrease.

After making this simulate and work again on bench with 555 / relay.
I quest to convert to solid state. When I get solid state version to sim (thanks gyula pointed out fet circuit over at JLN site)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalchrg.htm

I change the load resister for the transformer trying to get back to DC when the whole simulation got really strange with voltages rising and in less than a second megawatts are on Rout and the sim chokes out of bits and times out. So I add zener to clamp off voltage and the sim voltage rises to about that voltage and becomes steady state. then I ask all, whats going on here? and save to buy parts for ver3.

I have all but the zeners, fets and a good idea how many turns to use on the torroid...

And the big question is IF the circuit as drawn will turn the fets ON compleatly, or burn them up?

Spark

drspark

Hi pese,

I will make an animated .gif that will show how there IS a varying voltage on the transformer.

I start on it now.

Best Regards
Spark

drspark

Hi People,

Here is a little .GIF animation I made for pese.
I hope this helps to visualize whats happening

Spark