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Self Looped Cap Dump Bedini Motor

Started by joellagace, August 21, 2023, 07:00:40 PM

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tinman

Quote from: Cloxxki on August 26, 2023, 01:40:34 PM
You answer questions and suggestions without real content,.with just more loud mouthed attitude. Comes across ultra insecure. Like uneducated guys in very large vehicles showing off grotesk jewellery and tattoos, barking at everything that moves. It just doesn't work as well online.

Would be great if you'd crank up the attitude a tiny bit more as Stefan has warmed up to the idea of banning people who don't want to play nice. Any more nasty remarks you'd like to share? Show us what you're really made up, show us how you have decided to stand out from the crowd.

I have to say that i also understood all caps as shouting.

Dave Wing

Quote from: joellagace on August 22, 2023, 10:53:39 AM
LOL  :o TL/DR

"inductive kickback" is another common name for Back EMF, especially in the context of electrical circuits and systems.

When a current flowing through an inductive coil is suddenly interrupted, the magnetic field collapses, and the energy has to go somewhere. This can result in a sudden voltage spike or "kickback" across the coil. It's a manifestation of the principles underlying electromotive forces and provides a fascinating avenue for exploration.

"Back EMF" often describes a continuous phenomenon where the induced electromotive force opposes the direction of the applied voltage, such as in the operation of a motor.

"Inductive kickback," on the other hand, tends to describe a more sudden and transient phenomenon, like a spike in voltage when the current in an inductive circuit is abruptly interrupted.

These subtle differences in context can lead to the preference of one term over the other in specific situations.


BEMF or CEMF as found in the Bedini SSG  Energizer is a reverse voltage that opposes the applied voltage supplied by the primary battery.

Inductive collapse is when the coil tries to maintain the loss of current, as the transistor shuts off the flow of current to the inductor, the voltage will increase trying to maintain the sudden loss of current, which it cannot and it collapses and we see a large transient high voltage spike that travels in the opposite direction as the applied voltage of the primary battery. The diode sends these coil collapse spikes to the secondary battery for charging.

The Bedini SSG with all north's produces two EMF's, one is CEMF that will charge the primary battery, when a high inductance coil is used and the second EMF that is opposite and out of phase to the CEMF that does add to the inductive collapse going to the secondary battery.

The North Pole generates one positive and one negative EMF.

Dave Wing

Dave Wing


tinman

Quoteauthor=Dave Wing link=topic=19537.msg581694#msg581694 date=1693261971


QuoteBEMF or CEMF as found in the Bedini SSG  Energizer is a reverse voltage that opposes the applied voltage supplied by the primary battery.

Actually, the BEMF voltage is of the same polarity as the applied voltage, only slightly lower when a voltage is dropped across an inductor. The difference between the applied voltage and BEMF voltage increases over time, which is why current flow increases over time. The BEMF voltage can be calculated at any time through the charging cycle of the inductor.

QuoteInductive collapse is when the coil tries to maintain the loss of current, as the transistor shuts off the flow of current to the inductor, the voltage will increase trying to maintain the sudden loss of current,

The voltage across the inductor will invert once the source is disconnected. The voltage increases due to the rapid collapse of the magnetic field around the inductor. The peak value of this inductive kickback voltage will depend on the loads voltage value, or resistive value. The coils collapsing magnetic field induces an electric field/electric potential across the coil, which is what maintains the current flow through the coil. The peak current value will never exceed that of what the coil reached during the charging process.

QuoteThe Bedini SSG with all north's produces two EMF's, one is CEMF that will charge the primary battery, when a high inductance coil is used

This would depend on whether the coil was wound CW or CCW.

Quoteand the second EMF that is opposite and out of phase to the CEMF that does add to the inductive collapse going to the secondary battery.

Your far better off winding a third winding on the coil, hooking the outputs to a FWBR, and sending all that energy right back to a single run battery, and getting rid of the charge battery altogether.

Brad

Dave Wing

This screen shot was taken from https://youtu.be/OSJF3GlYGVc?si=50EryhVsEiPSidTb

The image analogy is for a small DC non-pulse motor, where the inductive kickback is discharged into the motor windings.

Peter Lindemann describes BEMF, the video is very good and is the first part of a three part series on Electric Motor Secrets.
Found here https://emediapress.com/shop/electric-motor-secrets/

I recommend purchasing these video's for your library.