Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[hartiberlin]

Honk, we are talking about 200 to 300 %, otherwise you would not get the rotor to accelerate and the cap to charge up with all the frictional  losses.

[hartiberlin]

@All,
Well, Mike just did take his first 3 scopeshots WITHOUT the hall ic and ss relay enabled. This can be seen, cause at least after 3 cycles there should have been otherwise the big pulse, which only shows up in the last scopeshot he posted. (ss-relay-with-hall.jpg)

Now listen:
the On switching of the ss relay will not be seen on the scopeshots, as long as the lower NPN transistor is not conducting !
You will then only see the big spike, when the trigger coil is again jumping its level and switches on the transistors.

[jonesbeene]

Stefan appears to be rewinding his Newman Motor - and one wonders if years ago he originally used a similar design to that of the Naudin/David Motor - it was 9 years ago and reported by Naudin to have run for 4 minutes 30 seconds with NO power input and without a dedicated capacitor even. Who needs a cap with all that wire 

This "antique" may have been under-appreciated at the time - and yet looking at it again, it has many similarities to the Window motor, and can easily be converted.

There are a number of faithful replications of Mike's design going on now - which are probably NOT showing the spiky noise which is seen in the "Dave" scope-shot. We do not know if that is important. The spikiness seen in the old shots of the Newman Motor are even far greater. Is the noise important? Is there a connection of spikes to so-called "negative current"?

It would be wonderful if there were several faithful replications of Mike's design on the record before attempting to advance that concept even further, but if anyone has on hand an old Naudin/David/Newman motor -- then it might be useful to convert that directly to three coils but keep at least one set of brushes.

Whether this Newman motor is even relevant to anything other than historical curiosity is not certain, but there is plenty of room to start trying some variations on the Mike theme, and perhaps Stephan is continuing with that effort. Especially important is the critical feature of that old design known as the "leaky commutator" which provides an even spikier scope shot (and so-called "negative" current).

In today's context, however, consider this possibility: IF this Newman Motor is redesigned and constructed with the advantageous 3 coil configuration of Mike, or even the two coil of Bedini, instead of one large coil (too large?), then who knows what it can accomplish as a longer "self-runner," compared to the 4+ minutes of the original ?  Here is a quote:

"The speed is now 500 RPM at 626 Volts and the interesting effect noticed, is that the MOTOR RUNS ITSELF FOR about 4 min and 30 sec AFTER the power supply has been switched off ! In the previous version (v1.3) my Newman's machine, has stopped after 1 min maximum" Fortunately the site is still up:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0629.htm

At the bottom of the page there is a description of the brushes, which were thought to be important.

Hmmm ... coincidental or unrelated ?

Regards,

Jones

[Honk]

Honk, we are talking about 200 to 300 %, otherwise you would not get the rotor to accelerate and the cap to charge up with all the frictional  losses.

That's not how overunity is defined.
The frictional  losses is part of the motor design and if most of the generated
energy consumed by motor friction, then the overunity is max a 1 or 2 percent.

If you really had 200 to 300 % overunity, you could light a large lamp and still
keep the motor running.... This is the kind of overunity we desire. 

[hartiberlin]

Honk, right, wait, until we have replicated the effect and understood it and  then it is only engineering to scale it up.

Fesearcher just confirmed to me, that he did not have yet a connection between L2 and L3 and is now building his own SS relay from MosFets.

All, who have already a 3 coil motor, but are missing the ss relay could just try to use a mechanical switch in series with that diode to do the connection manually with their hand. Please let us know, what will happen then.

German translation:

Du k?nntest auf die Schnelle mal austesten, einfach einen Taster-Schalter in Serie mit einer Diode von L2 zu L3 zu legen und dann per Hand immer schnell tasten.. Was bringt das dann ?
Es kann sein, dass L3 180 Grad gedreht angeschlossen werden muss ! Viel Erfolg!