Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[hotspringstrading]

Interesting on the charge rate with out any discharge. So again it has to be higher.

The dischare is compensated a bit by part of the start up being back feed to the cap through rectifyer.

Now comes the fun part. Calculate the discharge rate on the discharge. Being this is a capacitor it will not be the same as battery.

This is why I am looking at were the ringing can be made in the curcit during that part of the cycle, such would if self driven from flyback off of something in the switch cause an extream diferance in the charge rate.  The time off the flyback to discharge rate would be fast, but the devices in those switches are fast.

It is the one window that can cause a change in the charge rate to discharge of capcitor.

I might be wrong and he was just bypassing the trasistor for reduction.

This is a normal on switch that is removed during flyback to let the trasistors do there flyback thing.   LOL it still does it with the hall disconected.

So why does a switch that when opened seems not to do anything have to do with this I ask?


Added the normal closed versions of these relay will not close unless a ceartain curent is reached.

[dingbat]

Your charge graph from the film, appears to show the lower the voltage is steeper , so therefore i may be correct that it appears more OU at 4 volts than at 7.

A capacitor charging to a particular voltage always forms a curve that looks like that.

It appears that the time constant of Mike's curve is right at 5 seconds, compared to 23.5 seconds for the 500 ohms, 47000 uf.

This means his circuit charges as though a voltage is applied through a resistance of about 100 ohms, or about 60ma charging current at the start of the charging.

[hotspringstrading]

Well after reading a lot of results on sites I see a trend. with a capacitor in the curcuit, after letting get to speed, disconecting the capacitor, the motor will run for a longer than no voltage sorce conected.

Even mikes had to build up a charge to get the thing going. eventualy peaks. Would have been interesting to see what happened to mikes at peak.
So from here I see two thing could be posible. One is that the curcit is cut out to let the device gen and then kick in to get it back up. Kinda like a clock. If set up right it could run a long time. Strangly enough it may have been what Mike did. A current cut off to free wheel untill current reaches drive currents again.

Two he would have have to have a window that is causing current to charge that chapacitor we do not see yet.  I have already mentioned were this can be done if the sytem is set up with a capacitor across the switch and the curcit at the flyback becomes a ring.

Time will tell us wich he used I suspect. 

[slncspkr]

c'mon guys let this treat not die.
   I'm shure a lot of people still testing this motor trying to make work even if it seems it was a fake but who cares anyways? what's important it is the union of all brains as a whole so lets keeep trying we can do it.

[slncspkr]

here is some pics of my motor: