Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physic

[pequaide]

I think the size of the drive wheel eliminates the possibility of angular momentum conservation.

First; when the small gray disk has stopped the white disk and drive wheel it is not rotating around the center bearings of the white disk, it is (instantaneously) rotating around a point on the circumference of the (stopped) white disk. This may be hard to envision so I will allow you to believe that the gray disk is rotating about the center bearing of the white disk, which is impossible because the white disk is stopped.

The white disk has a radius of 3.5 inches. The gray disk has swung or flared out about 3.5 inches (from previous experiments and visual observation) when the white disk and drive wheel are stopped. This gives you about 7.0 inches for the radius of the flared out gray disk and the radius of the larger drive wheel is 9 inches. The effective rotational inertia of the wheel is about 30% inside its circumference so the radius of rotation of the drive wheel and the flared out gray mass are roughly similar. This should make this arrangement behave very differently than when all the mass is in the white disk, an experiment which has been done many many times. But the behavior of the two experiments is the same. Moderate motion of the wheel is turned into violent motion in the gray disk; the gray disk pulls loose from the white disk and slams into the back wall. 

Let me ask you two questions.      What if I replace the 18 inch drive wheel with a 1 meter drive wheel that has it mass concentrated near the rim?   

What happens if I replace the 18 inch drive wheel with a similar mass sled on a bearing track?   

[Kator01]

Hello pequaide,

this is an interesting setup.
Just one question : The drive-wheel is the vertical running wheel on the right side ?
And motion is transferred to the white plastic-wheel via the red rope ? So the axis of both wheels are perpendicular to each other, is that so ?

Now if you have this experiment that far it should be not to complicated to establish a speed-meter for measuring
the gray disc and calculate its kinetic energy.

If I would be in your position I would not argue with others about angular-momentum but concentrate on speed-measurements.


Good luck

Kator01

[pequaide]

It is red ribbon; and you are correct on other points.

[pequaide]

Sometimes I have access to my computer but I am not in the lab, so let me continue to argue against angular momentum conservation (in the lab).

An average size new construction home could be installed with a seven meter rim mass wheel.  The cylinder or white disk could be .25 meters (dia.). So, according to the angular momentum conservationists, the thrown gray disk could then be given all the “angular momentum” of the seven meter rim. Wow, you could launch bullets.

The angular momentum formula states that a 100 kg rim with a circumference velocity of 1 m/sec and having a radius of 3.5 meters will have seven times as much angular momentum as a 100 kg rim with a circumference velocity of 1 m/sec and having a radius of .5 meters.

Angular momentum conservation would require this sequence of events. When all the motion of the seven meter rim has been given to the gray disk (corresponding to the above pictured experiment) in paragraph two and the disk has a mass 1/10th that of the seven meter rim, then the gray disk will have to have a velocity 140 times larger than the original velocity of the seven meter rim. 

I am expecting little league baseball speeds not bullet speeds, but ha who am I to complain.

As far as collecting data from the above experiment, that is always the objective of a good experiment. But the data has already been collected. There is a substantial quantity of data collected from the cylinder and spheres. The experiment with the detached wheel and connecting ribbon only shows that the rotating mass need not be contained in the cylinder, and of course that the radius of the rotating mass has no effect upon the ultimate velocity of the final mass in motion. All data collected from the cylinder and spheres experiment shows that linear Newtonian momentum is conserved and that energy has been made in the laboratory. The external wheel and red ribbon experiment points to even more useful applications.   

[hartiberlin]

I don't quite understand. Can you post a video of the action?

Yes, please post a video or more pictures from each step by step
and post a better planation what is going on.

This needs to be documented on video.

Many thanks.