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Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physic

Started by pequaide, February 17, 2007, 01:39:49 PM

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pequaide

Drive wheel, White disk with embedded gray disk, will explain later.

pequaide

In the picture of the white disk you will see a white nylon cord attached to the gray disk. The cord was fastened using a slip knot and secured to the gray puck with gray duck tape. As the system begins spinning the gray puck tries to leave the system on a line tangent to the white disk.  The white nylon cord tries to prevent the gray disk from leaving the system and soon all the motion is in the gray disk.

The experiment is arranged so that the spinning motion of the 18 inch drive wheel is transferred to the white disk on the table. The red ribbon combines the momentum of the drive wheel to the momentum of the white disk. The white disk is horizontally mounted and has a mass of 485 grams. The velocity at the circumference times its mass (which is distributed throughout the disk) gives it a rotational momentum. This momentum of the white disk is about equivalent to 300 grams that were located on the circumference. The rotational momentum of the 3,400g drive wheel is roughly equivalent to a 2,200g rim times its circumference velocity. The center of mass of the 456g gray disk is on the circumference of the white disk so its rotational momentum is roughly equal to 456g times the circumference velocity.

Let’s use 1 m/sec for the ribbon velocity; this gives you 1 m/sec circumference velocity for the wheel and white disk and 1 m/sec velocity for the center of mass of the gray disk.   

This gives you an initial linear Newtonian momentum of 2.956 newtons (2,200g + 300g + 456g * 1m/sec)

This gives you an initial kinetic energy of 1.478 joules (1/2 *(2.200kg + .300kg +.456kg) * 1m/sec * 1m/sec)

This gives you and initial angular momentum of .5701   (2.200 * .2286 m + .300kg * .0889m + .456kg * .0889m * 1 m/sec)

For conservation of linear Newtonian momentum the gray disk will be moving 6.48 m/sec when it has all the motion.

For conservation kinetic energy the gray disk will be moving 2.54 m/sec when it has all the motion.

For conservation of angular momentum the gray disk will be moving 7.03 m/sec when it has all the motion.

If you used a larger drive wheel angular momentum conservation would give you a final velocity that would be off the charts.

If Newtonian linear momentum is conserved at 6.48 m/sec the final kinetic energy is 9.57 joules.

pequaide

Correction: a newton is a unit of force not a unit of momentum, Sorry. I have to watch my terms.

Kator01

Hello pequaide,

I can not watch your experiement without my mind beeing triggered with new ideas for proof of your concept.
The following idea I would like to call : "The magnet-and-spheres break-away-force-proof".

Referring back to your first cylinder and the spheres-setup the following principle could be used for proof of concept.

Let us assume you attach two ring-magnets to the end of the fly-away-tethers and attach the steel-spheres to the magnets then the accelleration of magnet-spheres-mass will give you the break-away-force F = mass  x accelleration ( In calculation with the formula M must be the mass of the spheres only ).-> accelleration = F / mass-sphere  which will give you the instant velocity at the break-away-point. This velocity will be of  identical value as the calculated accelleration and at the max value since there will be no additional accelleration after break-loose-point

By putting a plastic-disk-washer of variable thickness between the sphere and the magnet you can control the break-away-force which you can test before each run in a static test-rig. In this test-rig you will measure with a some force-meter the sphere-break-way-force from the magnet with distance-washers of different thickness.

By increasing the thickness of the washer in 0,3 mm -steps ( just a guess ) you will reach a point at which the sphere will break loose which will give you the force and thus accelleration->velocity->energy.

What do you think ?

Regards

Kator

pequaide

Keep using thicker and thicker washers until the spheres break away exactly when the white disk and drive wheel are stopped. That should be the point where the centrifugal force is the highest. Brilliant; your idea is absolutely brilliant.

Or you could use electromagnets that open at the exact millisecond of your choice. Good thinking Kator.  Go for it.