Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physic

[Kator01]

Hello Pequaide,

well, I would love to do it myself but I have  no technical means ( mechanic ) to produce the whole setup.
One thing I had in mind was to use a ceiling-ventilator-motor ( low rot/min) but I have to adapt the mechanics and have to find a way to figure out the inertia-moment of the rotor.
Any way - using electromagnets would make it more complicated because of the wiring and the external trigger-electronics for switching the electromagnets including the power-supply ( batteries ) which must all be mounted on the rotor-plane.
I think using permanent magnet would be the simplest solution - although the preliminary break-away-force-test is more time-consuming.

Then I was thinking about security.
Question : How much energy is left when the spheres break away ? Is it dangerous ?
My quess is that if you will hit the exact force there will be not much energy left as it is all consumed up in the break-away-process.

I even think that you can calculate the force before and than use ( by the prelimninary static test ) the corresponding washer-magnet-configuration for the real test.

I think that even in you present disc-setup on the table you can use this idea. There are so many forms of magnets awailable you can find one form which fits your gray disk.

http://www.monstermagnete.de/catalog/index.php?language=en&osCsid=31a1972c8fc03bc8ae5efdcdac512f8f

http://www.supermagnete.de/eng/index.php?switch_lang=1

Or look at these half-shell-magnets on the long bar ( upper-middle )

http://www.kundelmagnetics.com/pages/Kundel_Motor_Parts.html

Unfortunately I will not be able to do it myself.

Regards

Kator01

[pequaide]

I switched sides, now the fishing line (the white nylon cord was on the left) is on the right side of the gray puck, and of course the white disk spins the opposite direction.

I changed to a narrower ribbon.

I drilled a hole in the white disk and placed the fishing line through it, this holds the tether to a length of 4 3/32 inches to the center of mass of the gray puck.

I also added 700g at 7.75 inches from the center of the 9 inch radius drive wheel. This is roughly equal to 600 additional grams moving at the same speed as the ribbon. The white disk still appeared to stop; this I think puts us at 7.8 times the mass of the gray puck. This means that the gray puck is capable of finishing with 7.8 times the original energy. Final 1/2 * 456g * 7.8m/sec * 7.8m/sec; original ½ * 3556g *1m/sec * 1 m/sec

[pequaide]

I replaced the drive wheel with a sled of approximately equal inertia.  The sled and the white disk were stopped as the gray puck swung out on the end of the tether (fishing line). You just quickly see the stop; it was not quite as distinct as the wheel. I found out why when I measured the mass of the sled. The sled had a mass of around 3.4 kg, much greater than the estimated inertial of the wheel (2.8kg). Video tapes will reveal the true nature of the observed stops. The wheel stop may actually be reversing, or the sled stop may not be quite coming to a complete stop (but it is close).

This should be a fairly good proof that linear motion and circular motion is one and the same thing. How are the angular momentum conservationists going to calculate angular momentum conservation when most of the original momentum is linear?

[TinselKoala]

"How are the angular momentum conservationists going to calculate angular momentum conservation when most of the original momentum is linear?"

Using standard vector calculus and their fingers?

It's a bit of a more complicated problem than is usually found in freshman engineering dynamics textbooks, true. But it reminds me very much of that damn sophomore class I took, once long ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Once all the variables are made constant, and all the constants set to zero, the problem reduces to one already solved.
We just have to figure out which one.

Seriously, momentum conservation calculations can be difficult and misleading, particularly when there is impact between objects of widely differing velocities and/or masses. Throw in rotating elements and it's easy to get misled down the wrong garden trail. If one recalls that momentum IS conserved, at least in this universe, the analysis may become a little easier, because at least you'll know when you made a mistake somewhere.

[pequaide]

Good mathematics allows you to make predictions, so knowing the original motion you should be able to predict the final motion.

So tell me the original angular momentum of 3 kg moving 1m/sec in a straight line.