High voltage HHO by IronHead

[keithturtle]

Thanks, ZFF fer  posting yer observations.   It helps us all grasp the outcome of yer trials.   

I'll see my stamping shop classmate later this week; he may have some dies ready to run, and will take some strips of 26 ga 304 so's he can squarsh 'em.

I gots me some perf plate to work with that perpendicular idea as well.  Earlier it was mentioned that epoxy don't do well in a caustic environment... but I gots some structural stuff ["bond yer 1/4 panel on yer ride" type] that's been screamin' "TRY ME" from the shelf.

What better use on a critically aligned stack, held true by shim spacers, then glue and remove spacing stock.   This later this week hopefully.   

And, if I can get it built, a flashback bubbler that uses HHO to recirculate the electrolyte, without a separate pump.  No Kidding!

Oughta be an interesting week.

Turtle

[snoyl]

  Ok, I will pull one tooth at a time.

IronHead , You said "This type of system has run for months ( Rod adjustment weekly)before rebuild using a radiator to keep temps at bay.150F to 200F  do not let it go below 150 as it will become unstable. 

Why will it be unstable under 150F?

I have been gathering parts getting ready to build. can someone list some other safty items please. I know it might seem like comon sence. I would read every post to gleen the info, however my dail up is way slow. For some reason my 2.2 chip is running half speed. its not detecting enough power
I have watched some of the video footage, can you imagine how long it takes a 3 min video to load.  40 mins.
Im ready to play.

  Thanks, Ron

[d3adp00l]

I'd like to recap here some of what the experimental test cell has taught me so far.

A) It is reasonably accurate to say that gas production is proportional to wattage input (I x E) for a given concentration of electrolyte.

B) Increasing temp and/or raising the electrolyte concentration increases conductivity (lowers resistance) between plates.

C) Increasing conductivity proportionally increases gas production efficiency (i.e. 2x the conductivity, 1/2 the wattage to produce the same gas volume).

Consider now the test experiments we've seen with perpendicular plates at close spacing. Impressive gas from a small point at low wattage. Some have also reported that tilting some neutral plates away from parallel in a typical s-cell vastly increases their gas production.

Add this all up and think about how it might be applied to the s-cell in general. Specifically I'm thinking about the corrugated plates design. But, unlike the patent drawing, I would orient the plates such that they would not stack neatly, instead so that the points of the pleats were opposite each other at close proximity. This would allow for high gas production where the points nearly meet and high fluid exchange rate through the vertical channels in between and higher plate surface area overall. Wattage input would be a mystery until one of us finds a way to procure corrugated SS to test with.

ZFF

A) I would agree but it is not dependant on the electrolyte, just the wattage, increasing the conductivity by adding electrolyte only increases the amp draw and therefore increases output.

B)I would agree

C)I would disagree, increasing amp draw from my flow meter tests increases gas production in a linear fashion minus some ineffiecancies that go to heating the water,  so as wattage goes up I have noticed that gas production loses effiecency. But that also my have to do with the nature of my tests.

[gotoluc]

Interesting that you speak of GEET!

That is the direction I decided to go a few weeks ago but thought not to mention it in order not to disturb this topic.

Now that the cats out of the bag, I'm ordering a mig welder! got some new stainless exhaust manifolds to build!

We need to use all the heat!  transformation of water and fuel to a useable energy, is a good way to go.

I'll play on.

Luc

[keithturtle]

@gotoluc;
Y'all gonna try and weld stainless with a MIG?   I gots one (Lincoln 255) and every welding shop sez I need to TIG stainless if I wanna decent job.

Lemme know how it comes out.

I ain't gonna buy a TIG fer this project jes yet... found me a good welder, an I can pay him fer quite a while fer what a TIG would cost in Turtlebucks.

Turtle