Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

[IronHead]

Iron pump will work if there are no additives to the water ,like KOH ,Sodium based  and so on .Baking soda seems to be ok with a byproduct of CO and CO2.

Also you might think about a small hydrogen burner to increase the efficiency .A one way valve  to orifice injecting HHO into a mesh burner. Does not take much as these temps get very high. If you use baking soda the co and co2 will slow the burn of the HHO to produce a more even heating effect.A cpu water cooling block would work well for this.

Radiator is fine  as that is what I started with an ran a room style heater for many months .
This was a ,b r a s s type heater core radiator with a couple of high speed 120mm PC fans

LOL this server will not let me type the word  B R A S S

[kokomoj0]

Iron pump will work if there are no additives to the water ,like KOH ,Sodium based  and so on .Baking soda seems to be ok with a byproduct of CO and CO2.

Also you might think about a small hydrogen burner to increase the efficiency .A one way valve  to orifice injecting HHO into a mesh burner. Does not take much as these temps get very high. If you use baking soda the co and co2 will slow the burn of the HHO to produce a more even heating effect.A cpu water cooling block would work well for this.

Thanks... maybe the best thing to do then is just to get a plastic washing machine centrifigal pump and use that on the cold side.   i was thinking about using a cheap walmar 120 vac box fan and a car radiatoe.   Pipe it through the hot water heater to heat my water then throught the radiator to heat he house.  Unfortunately i have no idea how much or how big to make it to heat the whole house.

Someone said heating 15 gallons in 15 minutes which seems like it would keep 1800 sq ft house warm even in the coldest winter days but i have no data to know this.

Does the size of the tungsten matter?  i can also get 3/16 rods maybe last longer?

If my guesstimates are correct i would have to get roughly a COP of 3 or greater to break even with the cost of natural gas heat.

So you are suggesting burning the fumes then?  i suppose that would be safe to vent then too...

Another thinf that i seen on naudins site is that he has a small capacitor, enough to let high frequency through and he demonstrates how he is lighting a 5 watt bulb with no additional energy drain from the power supply. 

It does not show it directly but i think he is running it between the tungsten and the stainless.

Ok so thats whats on my mind for now

[IronHead]

You will have  to experiment with this. It is not about how fast you can heat something but  more about how fast you can recover  once heat is lost or transfered from heater to air.The lower the temp when it comes back the harder it is to heat it back up.For the room heater no pump was used . I built the thing like a heatpipe. Put the radiator above the source and it will convect  creating a pump like effect.

If you do this you will have to deal with  venting  gases and still keep positive flow as you would in any system like this .I  think supplemental heating  is what you will end up with. Build one reactor to start  you can always build more and stack them . It is a much better idea than have one huge system. Make it modular.

I would burn the HHO off whether you use this excess or not. Dumping lots of Hydrogen into the air does nothing to solve our pollution problem in the upper atmosphere .

There is another way as well you can build the cell so that the Hydrogen and  oxygen are seperated then bleed of the oxygen and store the hydrogen for other use. DO NOT STORE Hydrogen and Oxygen  together as it is explosive.
Hydrogen with out air or oxygen will not burn.

3/16 rod is fine if its all you have   you will just need to adjust it more often.


Just build it now and it will teach you, start small
IronHead

[kokomoj0]

There is a welding supply just a few blocks from me and i can get 3/16, 1/8, 1/16 and one that is like a wire and i am not sure which one would be best. i can get teflon any size and have found a mfg for pourable pottable ceramic that is supposed to hold up to around 2700 degrees that i can mold over the end.   only think i dont like is that they require a 100 dollar min order enough to last me 5 lifetimes LOL

I think i would rather burn the hydrogen to get max efficiency out of it and i am pondering the idea of using it to run a tesla turbine and a generator possibly by boiling wood alcohol which which i chose because it boils at 150 degrees which is the best operating temperature for this unit apparently, then have a cooling system for the wood alchohol that cools just below it boiling temp.

Finally the last stage would be heating the house

So i have big plans if it can work andif i can get a decent COP out of it.  but then maybe i am stretching things a bit.  unfortunately i dont really know what i am doing on this lol

[IronHead]

Interesting , So you would just need some  copper tubing coiled up with the reactor water flowing through it at lets say 160*.Then this would be submersed in the alcohol. You should not need a pump for that at all.
This also would be a very good system as far as heat recovery as the return water will  be good and hot.

Tungsten .Get the largest Green tip ones you can find