OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now

[FreeEnergy]

forget the patent and share already

and hartiberlin has a good point, just scale down this machine to a smaller size instead of using ridiculously expense materials.

peace

[JackH]

Hello Stefan and FreeEnergy,

Well that would be nice, however by using smaller magnets you only get a self runner that will not put out extra power.    By using the valve I invented I cannot get extra power out without going up to at least a 2" magnet.  So that really puts me out on your prize money.  The ridiculously expense materials, just seems to be the way it needs to be.   I don't think you will ever need to worry about giving away your prize money.   Please don't think that I am just being smart about this, but that is just how it is.

I can tell you again, and I know it will just go through one ear and out the other,  You will never see a simple motor that will put out extra power.  I am not being smart about this, but I have been in this business for a long time and have never had a motor that would put out extra power till I went with at least a 2" magnet.  Permanent magnets are just not that strong yet. They do not even come close to matching the magnetic power that you find in an electric motor.

Now I have been looking out on this board for severial years now and I can see that there is always someone working on someone elses stuff.  Always a rehash of old stuff.  If this old stuf worked there would be free power right now.  I am sure that the inventers that invented this stuff, if it really worked, we would have free power.

The wankel motor is one that I have seen running it's self.  However it would only run it's self and would only run about three days and you needed to replace the magnets.   Remember the wankel motor uses repulson mode on the magnets and that will depleate the magnets over time.   For any motor that will continue to operate for extended periods, the magnets will allways need to be in atraction mode.   I have seen that with my motor, if I increase the current till it over powers the permanent magnet just a little bit, it will not run long.   As long as I run the current till it only matches the permanent magnet it will run for ever with out destroying the magnets.

Thanks,,,,,,,Later,,,,,,JackH

[hartiberlin]

Hi Jack,
if your principle really will work, it should only be an engineering task to scale
it down to use smaller magnets too and also work then.

I guess you still have the problems of switching the right current pulses
to your coils and having the right timeconstants and getting rid
of the back EMF fast enough..or overcome the Inductance to
switch the coils on fast enough..

As in your motor it is a dynamic system and this is different
than when you just switch DC voltage onto an electromagnet to
compensate any permanent magnet field...

The one who runs his motor in attraction is Paul Sprain and
his "wankel principle" as you call it, seems to work.
His newest motor which I already have seen pics of privately
will probably blow away many people?s opinion on it !

Regards, Stefan.

[Liberty]

Hello Jack,

Quote from Jack:  "You will never see a simple motor that will put out extra power."

I would tend to agree that a simple small motor will not be capable of producing 50 watts additional output.  It will require a successful small permanent magnet motor idea that is capable of obtaining gain, that can be made into several motors teamed up together (creating a more complex motor with more strength and multiple magnetic poles like a standard  electric motor) to have the chance to approach this goal.  It is then unlikely that an average inventor would be able to afford to make three of these motors and send them out.  Most inventors find it very difficult to successfully make a small permanent magnet motor with the potential of gain.

But I must say that I like the idea of a prize for the inventor.  Perhaps if there were different levels of prize for different levels of achievement?

Hope you are doing well Jack and Stephan.

Wishing you all the best.

Liberty

[JackH]

Hello Liberty and Stefan,

I will be the first to hatts off for Stefan for offering this prize money.  However I also think it will be very hard for a small machine shop or inventer to grab it.

Stefan,  I have built severial small motors that would just bearlly selfrun(1" magnets).  But here comes the hard part, most generators do take alot of pull down during a load, I have seen very little that do not.   Even if you had a generator that did not provide a pull down during load, just the gearing or chain drive to operate this generator has a 20% loss.   Even if you mounted it on the same shaft it would take a motor that is about 200% efficient to operate it and still produce 50 watts.   50 Watts is alot of power to produce with a small motor.

I hope that you finally do find someone that CAN do it.  That will mean free energy, I hope for all.

Later,,,,,,JackH