New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

[rlortie]

Bob,

If you invested over $200000+ over 6 years, would you say "here this is for you guys...Have a goog time"

No I do not think so either, I would not just hand it out!  But then again knowing that no one could build it for commercial purpose or reap any royalties from it. I would consider going public for investors and manufacturers to be made aware.
First off, I wish to make it clear that I am on your side all the way. I also have many years and expense wrapped up this merry chase. A little over 50 years to be explicit and I have not bothered to keep track of expenses as I am sure it would blow my mind. I have well over $100,000.00 wrapped up in tooling and shop facilities alone.

I understand the shelving process of patent applications. I am under the understanding that if a patent is applied for by certified mail and a return receipt requested,  that application becomes valid once it is postmarked (dated) by the Postmaster. You have then locked in your 'prior arts' and can feel free to exploit or market the invention with full protection pending an issuance of an official patent Number.

I am sure that in your life time you have picked up something that had "Patent Pending" stamped on it. this is the same as having a patent as you have applied for it using the proper procedures. 

If I were in your position and had my receipt of  application received. I would be shouting it from the rooftops and getting all the publicity I could before the examiner had a chance to refuse it. Even then if refused the concept is still protected and gaining in public knowledge. In the meantime you make an appeal, which would probably require you to present them with a small working model. My favorite example for this is the Howard Johnson magnetic motor which was denied and finally granted via the PTO Appeals appellate. True, it took him three years to clear the hurdles, but it did not stop him from moving forward with his design in the meantime. Which by the way does not work, but a lot of magnets got sold!

Keep in mind that the only loss you can measure is the very few  who have the empirical skills and resources to build the machine for their own domestic use, this will happen with or without a patent. Something I believe you will agree is quite limited compared to those who would like to see the benefits of your machine put to use on a world wide scale.   

I am not a lawyer  nor a patent Agent, but as I understand the process there is no reason you could not be making the most of your machine. If it is determined as falling under the 'Perpetual Motion' clause and you already have the public aware of the benefits it provides, it would make it difficult to deny your patent request.

I am involved with your concept much more than what you see from this forum thread. My indulgence is by confidential mail with a limited number of parties attempting to duplicate and or verify your machine and videos of its operation.

If any patent wise forum member wishes to dispute or correct me on my above statements, please do so with all haste. I do not wish to lead anyone down a false path!

Thank you and Regards,

Ralph Lortie  Stanfield Oregon USA

         

[LarryC]

@Bob,

The American government shelves the patent for 18  months before it is processes........hummmm

First, I am glad that you are well. But, an addition to Ralph comments. Why worry about the USA, when you have the Patent Cooperation Treaty on your side, due to your Canadian patent? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Cooperation_Treaty.


@Ralph,

I am involved with your concept much more than what you see from this forum thread. My indulgence is by confidential mail with a limited number of parties attempting to duplicate and or verify your machine and videos of its operation.

Very glad to see that you are interested in Bob's design. It certainly gives me and others an added incentive in attempting to replicate knowing that you are interested and actively attempting to recreate Bob's machine. What I don't understand is why you are not sharing your accomplishments or challenges with this forum, as all would benefit.


@unbalanced,

Thanks for the poly board tip.


Regards, Larry     

[nightlife]

 I can not see this working because if it could, then a magnetic set up based on the same principle would work too. Gravity acts just as a magnet does. They both have a equal draw to the center.

[rlortie]

@LarryC

Very glad to see that you are interested in Bob's design. It certainly gives me and others an added incentive in attempting to replicate knowing that you are interested and actively attempting to recreate Bob's machine. What I don't understand is why you are not sharing your accomplishments or challenges with this forum, as all would benefit.


Larry, your statement is composed well and to the point;  Working with others by confidential mail limits my availability to discuss it on an open forum without all participants acknowledging and giving permission to do so. If you know me or are aware of the roll I play in this ongoing game then you know that my reputation and integrity are my highest priorities. I do a lot of confidential skunk works research for clients who wish to remain nameless.  It is my sworn oath to honor those wishes.

To clear the air a little farther, apparently I have lead you to believe that I am actively attempting to recreate Bobs design. This is not quite true.  I am working in collaboration with those attempting to duplicate. My chosen path is to research  the principle that the concept allegedly uses for motive power as I understand it, and I am not sure that I do understand it.   

I am not nor will I attempt a duplicate build without full knowledge and verification.  I am with reasonable doubt that the design is viable without an outside force such as hydraulics or compressed air. My current research is aimed at seeing if if can be accomplished by mechanical leverage transference. The original idea behind this is not mine and therefore can say no more.

What I can talk about is that I am very apprehensive of using hydraulics in any reciprocating weight type concept. The inertial loss of changing direction of hydraulic fluid in such a contained environment for a gravity wheel is going to be very hard to over come. There  are ways to reduce the osculating time sequence, but that is a different story and does not apply well on Bobs machine. 

I wish you luck with your cam and lever concept, but to my thinking the end result is no different than having a stationary ramp in the lower left quadrant for a clockwise rotation, the drag and friction loss will be equivalent. Part of this you have already experienced by having to put a metal band on your cam.

I hope you can prove me wrong!

Ralph Lortie.     

       

[AB Hammer]

Greetings All

    I am glad to see Bob is well and all is going forward.

LarryC

Ralph (rlortie) is the one person I fully trust in this game. He will give you his full honest openion. It is up to you to take his advice or try to prove him wrong, and the latter is not easy. LOL He has a reputation from many of being trustworthy . I have shown him several of my designs and of course there have been a few giggles about some of them for good reason. But there are others that we mince thoughts about and as well happy to work with him on. Sucess is bigger than all of us, so when you find people you can trust. I suggest you stick with them.