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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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noonespecial

Its actually thought that Creative Science bought the rights to this early design that requires an external source from Bob. Bob went on to develop a unit that doesn't require an external power source.

Regards,
Charlie

rlortie

Unbalanced,
First off, go to Besslerwheel.com home page, I cannot post the link as the server is apparently down at the moment. Not the forum page if you open the forum click on the Bessler.com located at the very top of the page. Here you will find a time-line and drawing links.

If you are scrutinizing these pictures in hopes of clues, forget it!  These drawings have been cussed and discussed  since their conception. There are many forum pages related to these pictures. They contain more discrepancies than I care to count.

The bottom line is that you must accept the alleged fact either Bessler had a working wheel or it was a scam!  From there you are pretty much on your own and to work with the believers. Bessler were was quite adamant that he was not going to give it away. The pictures IMO make that point perfectly clear!   

@ Charlie,

Sometimes (actually a lot of time)  I feel like the legendary Irish Banshee of Death,  It seems that I am always knocking on someones door explaining to them why I feel their idea will not work.  With your latest drawings I am having a problem figuring out how you get the tension spring loaded lever back under the rotating weight at six o'clock without deploying the same amount of force you expect in return? 

Ralph   

unity2zero

Quote from: noonespecial on November 20, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Its actually thought that Creative Science bought the rights to this early design that requires an external source from Bob. Bob went on to develop a unit that doesn't require an external power source.

Regards,
Charlie

Creative Science and Research have been selling this plan since 2003, and there is no way that Bob was selling it to them. It should be the other way round. OK, Charlie, just to let you know something since you are so interested in Bob's gravity wheel. But before that, you should download a copy of this for your reference before it "disappear" from the web. After several trial and error, I got to build one of this machine and happy to say it works! But...but...but....it is NOT over unity yet. I used it to drive a small generator to produce enough power to a car battery to run a tiny air compressor to power the air cylinder and after several hours of running, the battery have to be charged from a wall cable plug. There could be 2 reasons for the failure. The one I built could be too small using weights of only 1kg and a "stretched-arms" diameter of only 600mm or about 2 feet. The second reason is the air cylinder I am using is too big and too much air is wasted. Take a look at Page 9 and you will know how the sequence work. If I have more time and money, I will built another bigger one which will be more realistic and hopefully (which I think it will) to achieve "over-unity"

Just like Bob's machine, the swing is "extremely" powerful. The use of compressed air is very little as what Bob had mentioned and this is what he mean by "enhancement system."

Bob's system could look a bit different because it has to be different before he can patent it (but I don't think he could get it patented so easily).

You can get your disc brake here: http://www.ringspann.com/uk/products/p46/p46txt.htm
For mini or small and cheap air compressor: http://www.safety-devices.com/air_compressor.htm

Cheers and Good Luck!

rlortie

Creative Science does not hold any patents that I am aware of. All they have is copyright pages of how to build.

They make a feeble attempt to protect their collection of un-patentable  publications with the following disclosure which to my thinking is not worth the paper it is written on. I have underlined the only tangible wording they have a leg to stand on.


These plans are for your eyes only! You can not show anyone else these plans with out our written
permission. You can not copy resell or give away these plans or any other set of plans you may have
purchased from us as well as our videos.
You can not manufacture this device or any of our other
devices without our written permission.
You are allowed and can build different size models and use for them for your own use only.
You Build at your own risk, these plans involve the use of dangerous products as well as high
voltage devices, always wear rubber gloves to protect yourself against electrical shock, one
mistake and you are dead! So please be very careful!
You can never build any of our free energy devices and show them to any part of the media or
newspaper media in anyway or you will be sued as well as all other legal action taken. Our free
energy devices must be built by individuals like you, this is the plan we have chosen to take and will
slowly introduce free energy devices to the world! Free energy devices must be slowly introduced to
the world! If you do not take our advice and you try to get away with manufacturing our devices, not
only will we find you and take legal action but Big Brother will take action as well! ( Who ever Big Brother
really is )? Who ever they are, they have agents who take care of these things and much differently
than we would do. Believe me, we have tried to manufacture them ourselves and found out the hard
way!


Oh Boy I am really impressed. They write this stuff because they think any body gullible enough to believe in over-unity will also be gullible enough to fall for this crap. Everything here is already "free source except the publication.

A little redesigning and a re-write of terminology and your off to the patent office! Did you know that the wheelbarrow was never patented? I am surprised they are not claiming ownership of that too!   

IN THE 1994 AT&T 1-800 BUSINESS YELLOW PAGES BOOK A manufacturing company tried to
sell free energy electric motors and generators! Wow! That takes guts! They had a large ad on one of
the yellow book pages, (we still have a copy of that page ) they were quickly shut down and never
heard from ever again. We tried many times to find them and contact them but all the phone numbers
that were in there ad were disconnected! So who is doing this? Who is suppressing the
manufacturing of free energy devices, IT’S BEST THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW!....................


OK! Should I be quaking in my boots, out of fear? show us the ad, a yellow page ad is free source as the advertiser  wants all to see it.

Ralph

noonespecial

Quote from: rlortie on November 20, 2008, 01:18:38 PM
@ Charlie,

Sometimes (actually a lot of time)  I feel like the legendary Irish Banshee of Death,  It seems that I am always knocking on someones door explaining to them why I feel their idea will not work.  With your latest drawings I am having a problem figuring out how you get the tension spring loaded lever back under the rotating weight at six o'clock without deploying the same amount of force you expect in return? 

Ralph   

Hi Ralph,
No problem, I appreciate your review and comment. Without completing it and seeing exactly what will actually happen, I'm expecting that the rotor assembly, acting like a large rotating lever will have the traditional F1D1=F2D2 force plus the added rotational force present at the 6:00 position. I haven't calculated the exact force at the lifting pin but logic suggests that it will be greater than the force required to lower the actuator arm and load the spring. If not, then its back to the drawing board....:).
There is also a cam that lifts the weights 2.5" prior to the 6:00 point. I'm sure that you are aware that the force required to lift the weights drops off exponentially as they are raised and once the weights are just past the half way equilibrium point (depending on the speed)
they will raise themselves by centrifugal force.
If you can see an error in my thinking please let me know where I am going wrong and hopefully suggest a solution.

Regards,
Charlie