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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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Omnibus

What a disappointment. What can I say? The initial claim was quite different and it doesn't matter whether or not this is a useful device, we were misled. So, as a rule of thumb, anybody who makes videos with OU claims and refuses to cooperate with independent parties to verify these claims should be considered nothing but a joke, to put it mildly. This manipulative behavior is turning into a trend, unfortunately, abusing the wonderful opportunities the internet provides for dissemination of knowledge.

mscoffman

Concerning Bob Kostoff's (so called) Gravity Machine

I previously wrote the following in:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/airpoweredvehicles/

See highlighted section below. Russians first saw these
process happen in transformer oil similar to hydraulic fluid.

If this process is what is happening in his device and he doesn't
wish admit to it then his device's development trajectory is going
to follow historical patterns.

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I think that one needs to recognize that the conditions
produced of shock air compression are *exactly* those
conditions required to produce CF Cold Fusion by the
deuterium hydrogen isotopes found in natural water.
This input water could easily come from the humidity
in atmospheric air. Also that the processes that cause
compression fusion in noble gasses as historically used
by the Papp engine could also be taking place in
naturally occurring atmospheric argon.

Rather than play "fight the theoretician", one needs
to recognize there may be processes seen in the
real world that don't immediately correspond to any
apparent in their equations. If one can understand
the process and put in place structures to augment
it, then one may come out miles ahead in the long
run.

CF is a particular process, even though it can be
initiated by many different physical processes that
insert mechanical phonons into hydrogen bearing
liquids.
This causes vacuum cavitation bubbles
to expand and when they subsequently collapse they
produce the electrodynamic and then the nuclear
conditions under which two deuterium atoms can fuse
together resulting in excess heat available to the process.
...

By understanding what is occurring, several positive
things might occur: First the structures that augment
these process can be designed into equipment and be
*kept there*. If statistical parameters accompany the
production of this energy then they will become quantifiable.
If the statistic and costs are favorable, compressed air
may become the *preferable vehicle* to realize excess CF
cold fusion energy. And finally success in these endeavors
can have a positive effect on the scientific study and
acceptance of the CF cold fusion process itself.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Omnibus

No, no, Bob Kostoff's unfortunate creation has nothing to do with cold fusion. No need to infuse further confusion into this already muddled enough story. The only thing it deserves is to dismiss it and move on.

4Tesla


LarryC

Bob has changed video 4 from the tri-arm to show a longer run of his latest machine. It can be slowed down to see the detail of the lift sequence. The lift seems to be only around 8" to 12". Makes you wonder why the very expensive ~36" double action cylinders.

Clock Pos    Lift percentage
11:00              0%
11:30            25%
12:00            50%
1:00             75%
1:30            100%

Regards, Larry