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Proof of concept - perturbing a static magnetic field

Started by bob.rennips, May 30, 2007, 12:57:25 PM

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EMdevices

Karl,

Are you refering to a simple  SERIES connection of L, C, and R?

Can you post more info, a schematic perhaps?

EM

hartiberlin

Quote from: karl on June 26, 2007, 05:36:41 AM
Hi, good results,

interesting formula from Hugh H. Skilling, "Electric Network", John Willey & Sons, 1974, regarding a situation of an RLC Resonator (or Network) which once loaded whith internal energy provides enough energy to swing perpetual (continous changing form of energy).

R^2 < 4 * (L/C)

Includung an PM causes an "Assymetric" and therefore "Nonlinear" introduction in the L-factor (loading in parralel mode, pumping in antiparallel mode).
We should engineer an "Factor of Motivation" which describes the property of selfexcitement (neg. damping).

How should we get into this stable sector?
Possible due to:
#Offset statically
#dyn. Offset due to interacting Waveforms
#canceling out R by using the skin effect (HV)

Best wishes
Karl

Hi Karl,
sounds very interesting.
Could you please scan the pages from this book and post over here ?
Or is it available online ?
Maybe there are also a few drawings with it ?

Is there also more mathematical forumulars with it,
so obe could see how he develops this forumula ?

Many thanks.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

bob.rennips

Refer to this circuit to see how you can use BEMF to perturb the field of a neo magnet:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2697.0.html

karl

Quote from: EMdevices on June 28, 2007, 01:16:02 PM
Karl,

Are you refering to a simple  SERIES connection of L, C, and R?

Can you post more info, a schematic perhaps?

EM

Stefan and EM,
yes. This formula and reference was used by an farmous thinker which back- and forward engineered at the same time.
He has designed or redesigned or better created a formula for each infinite small or big, thick or thin, long or short way of materia flow.
A piece of iron square shaped with polefaces, a wire of copper with polefaces, a sparkgap with polefaces, a liquid tube with polefaces a magnetohydrodynamic device with polefaces, an amplifier tube with polefaces, aq battery with polefaces a capacitator with polefaces, an inductor with polefaces, an trasistor with polefaces an lightbulb with an abrupt change in media with polefaces, an swinging pendulum with poles, a Franck Hertz Versuch with poles.........
Always an finite element with poles, do you feel, that there is an simple principle behind the creation of electronics?
Atoms with poles , molecules with poles, masses with poles, clusters with poles, earth magnetic field with poles, sun with poles, cosmic influences due to poles,  earth e-field with poles, and last but not least magnets with poles.....

STOP!!!

Polefaces are described as C, turbulators as L and energytransformer as R.

But the problem with the low R was solved by using an conductive gas (eg. air, H2, N2, O2...plasmatic state), please use not a vacuum, because you'll be x-rayed afterwards. But a short comment about E=m*c^2. Where does the radiant energy come from while a particle accelerates to a discrete value (a kind of super sonic), and after slowing down it has the same mass as before, but, it was in the vacuum and no particle interaction could occour. But only to think.....

So please only experiment in conducting gases as media for sparkgaps. The gas is the absorber and everytime we are living, we have to breath air, so stay on air, it's the carryer of life energy.

cLOSE THE CONTAINER; to avoid activated gas or ions to escape.

OK. A Sparkgap consists basicly of an poleface with an distance between the plates, called capacitance. A nonlinear capacitance as we see later. First this capacitance is relative assymetrical loaded with energy quantas. The paschen formula describes the noninear behaviour of a gas in the nonconductive to the conductive quadrand (?I think so? was it Paschen?). In the moment of conduction, when the breakdown of the capacitive element appears the capacitive element Funkenstrecke changes it's behavior to an resistor with an defined resistance which is verry low in this moment, because the eather is streched. We call this state of the reaction break down of conductive gas.

Now we have an Conductor and a resistor at the same time an the "fifth element", plasma, more powerful than vacuum in relativity to us.
We have also a verry short time to get to R (on), hello to all switchers, and due to the shortest time and the highest current and the lowest resistance and an plasmatic conductor an (some) relativistic effect's including light exchange.

Next phase introduces an swirling motion, forward and backwardmotion of the sub-particles in different directions (rooms) and therefore energy exchanging in an resonant state (plasma is atomic resonance). Here the Inductive part happens, because no energy is created or destroyed, but changed in form or kind of motion (linear, circular or polarized (linear-circular)).

YES IT'S AN RLC IN SERIES   or better it's an R+C of the old style in series with the wires to feed it. 

And a verry good one, but, energyoverflow is lost (or created?) due to radiation as light (massless). If you use a kind of closed lasertube you can use the overflowenergy to feed the process.

But, the resonator of an ordinary sparkgap is an RLC in series. With nonlinear characteristis while breakdown has not occoured, with quasilinear characteristics while breakdown, and back to the box...

In this state the proposed formula was used to describe a so called resonating chamber. But thats to much here, this is an other storry of an future which's horizons only sometimes is seen.

I didn't have the book, I only has the reference, but It looks so important to all your projects that someone should try to get the book. Every book is stored normaly in an university over the world.

But every real HVelectronics could use this formula to play with the RLC factors and see what happens under this conditions.

Who is able to show an example of this quadrand of operation in an example?

Is it really so hard to impline?

The formula is right copied, I'm only a copyman...hohohohoho...

But this makes sense.

I don't have much time to experiment, so intuitive empiric theory and copy i ging is my hobby.

We are at the edge of the univere with our knowledge, Don't PAnic...Just push the button and look what happens...

But, sometimes I experiment with Newman motors and other things like swinging magnets like a little child, sometimes my wife is verry angry about me because I'm laying asleep before my running Newman machine and dream while heraring the swirling of somethousand Hz of rotating neos.

So, please feel free to ask me about my opinion. "And go on my friends, and deal with the healing spirits, with the magic of the ground and the magic of te earth..."(HAWKWIND, Spacebandits) never was the science so overloaded with esoteric, thats a good sign, something good will happen soon.

Add: Please take 1/2 oz of this formula and an 1/2 oz of Harold Aspends Heart of Matherna Testatica Patent and mix at some thousand Hertz as described in the patent (please ask again if you don't know what I mean), Overload it with some thousand static volts and use the surface of the conductor parts (coil and C surface) as an superfast electrostatic carpet with superior R characteristis and.....

Good night everybody, wherever you are..

KARFUNKEL

karl

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 28, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: karl on June 26, 2007, 05:36:41 AM
Hi, good results,

interesting formula from Hugh H. Skilling, "Electric Network", John Willey & Sons, 1974, regarding a situation of an RLC Resonator (or Network) which once loaded whith internal energy provides enough energy to swing perpetual (continous changing form of energy).

R^2 < 4 * (L/C)

Includung an PM causes an "Assymetric" and therefore "Nonlinear" introduction in the L-factor (loading in parralel mode, pumping in antiparallel mode).
We should engineer an "Factor of Motivation" which describes the property of selfexcitement (neg. damping).

How should we get into this stable sector?
Possible due to:
#Offset statically
#dyn. Offset due to interacting Waveforms
#canceling out R by using the skin effect (HV)

Best wishes
Karl

Hi Karl,
sounds very interesting.
Could you please scan the pages from this book and post over here ?
Or is it available online ?
Maybe there are also a few drawings with it ?

Is there also more mathematical forumulars with it,
so obe could see how he develops this forumula ?

Many thanks.
Hallo Stefan,

einen guten Ansatz zu finden ist manchmal schwer, aber die heutige Zeit fordert neues von uns.

"Die Schwingkammer", eine Rarit?t aus dem Raum- und Zeit-Verlag (EVERt-Verlag) um die 1980 hat mich zu der formel gef?hrt.
Ein in sich geschlossener Funke wird generiert. Die Kammer ist ein QW?rfel mit 4 Elektrodenw?nden, alle unterteilt in segmente. Ist aber was f?r Ufos, nicht f?r daheim. Der so generierte Kugelblitzschnitt kann aufgeladen und entladen werden und generiert ein neuartiges magnetfeld, das nicht mit ferromagnetica interagiert. UNDERSTAD? Hauptantrieb. UNDERSTAD? KUGELBLITZ. UNDERSTAND? Wandert auch durch W?nde, schwer zu halten... Knoff Hoff...

Ich mach mich mal in der FH-Bibi schlau, die Formel ist wahrscheinlich der Pr?fstein der FE. Unsere Physik ist nicht falsch, sie ist einseitig betrachtet worden und zweckgerichtet vers k(?lle) alaaf t. Last but not least schau ma mal (die engl?nder und chinesen drehn jetzt am rad weil ses net verstehe hhihihih).

Du kannst doch auch mal ne buchleihe(r) anleihern.

Das w?re ja die H?rte wenns in Deinem Forum passiert. Dann kriegst <Du 'nen Orden vom Kanzler.

Ich find's jedenfalls Future styled was hier abgeht, hier funkt auch so schnell keiner rein. ?ber 80% der Himmelsk?rper (kleine) werden von Hobbyastronomen entdeckt. Letzte Nacht habe ich mal mit einem Sternenlichtverst?rker in den Himmel gesehen, wow, da schnuppt's nur so, so viele w?nsche kann man gar nicht so schnell formulieren, naja, daf?r gibt's ja die wunschsparkasse, schnell rein damit, kling, kling...

Los geht's, unsere Achse ist gelegt, bruuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

Frohes Schaffen und Schlafen,

karLfunkel