Chas Campbell free power motor

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Stefan,

You are still stuck with the basic problem and that is how to rotate the entire assembly 30 degrees to bring the next ball into play when you only have 27 degrees or less to play with and only one ball to do it with. The potential energy in the system does not change with a 3 dimensional arrangement or any other arrangement.

Incidentally zero, I am a qualified engineer, physics major at that :-)

Hans von Lieven

[zero]

Hans, if you say that there is no more potential in such a manor, then
either you are a LIAR, or you have not looked at the device in motion and
do not understand what I am talking about.

As I said before..

If I put a basket on your back..  and gently set a 100lb ball into it...

OR

I roll a 100lb ball on a 3ft rail at a 30 degree slope downwards,
which then slams into your basket at speed...


Is there no energy difference?!   If you say there isnt,  then You are Not
a physicist.

[hartiberlin]

From the starting position cambell_harti5.gif ,
when the 2 red balls have gone down to the lower rolling track,
the wheel has  lifted the next yellow ball at 11 o?clock to the
12 o?clock top position, so this ball rolls out ,
so that it becomes the
cambell_harti4.gif  position, where only 1 red ball is at the
left about 4x distance of the axis, but this
still is enough to lift the next yellow ball from the 11 o?clock to the
12 o?clock top position, so this ball rolls out again to the right.

[Humbugger]

Hans, if you say that there is no more potential in such a manor, then
either you are a LIAR, or you have not looked at the device in motion and
do not understand what I am talking about.

As I said before..

If I put a basket on your back..  and gently set a 100lb ball into it...

OR

I roll a 100lb ball on a 3ft rail at a 30 degree slope downwards,
which then slams into your basket at speed...


Is there no energy difference?!   If you say there isnt,  then You are Not
a physicist.

This is deteriorating into silly name calling now.  Yes there is an energy difference.  It is identical to the extra energy it takes you to lift the ball that extra distance up to the top of your inclined ramp.  Not a drop more!

Humbugger

[hartiberlin]

G'day Stefan,

You are still stuck with the basic problem and that is how to rotate the entire assembly 30 degrees to bring the next ball into play when you only have 27 degrees or less to play with and only one ball to do it with. The potential energy in the system does not change with a 3 dimensional arrangement or any other arrangement.

Incidentally zero, I am a qualified engineer, physics major at that :-)

Hans von Lieven

Then why don?t you calculate  the torque arms ?
Where is my error in my calculation ?

Here it is once again:

2 balls 0.5 distance from axis x 1 Kg = 1.0 units
2 balls 0.8 distance from axis x 1 Kg = 1.6 units
1 ball   1.0 distance from axis x 1 Kg = 1.0 units
====================================
sum= 3.6 units

On the right side we have then only for 2 x 15 degrees:

1 ball 3.8 distance from axis x 1 Kg = 3.8 units
1 ball 4.0 distance from axis x 1 Kg = 4.0 units
===================================
sum= 7.8 units

Divided by 2 cause only for 30 instead of 60 degres rotation
we still have a 3.9 versus 3.6 advantage.