New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery

[theb3e]

PS: Have you seen the vids of the newman motor that runs after the power source has been removed? If you would like the link, let me know.. but I'm sure you guys have already seen it.. pretty cool if you ask me!

No mate havnt seen it please do post the link and nice machine.

Thanks! It is just a mess around unit before I start winding big coils and wasting materials..

Yeah, I think this guy had the idea back in 1998 he rigged up a power supply with some diodes, high frequency choke coils, a couple of 160uF caps and was able to get his motor to run for 5 min with the power supply unplugged.. "closing the loop" his name is JL Naudin (JLN Labs) He has a video that shows him disconnecting the power supply and the thing keeps going!
Here is a link to his site, there is tons of good info there with wiring diagrams and screen shots of his scope, diagrams.. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nwjlself.htm

[NerzhDishual]

Hi Theb3e,

Welcome to the club.
Nice and successful motor, IMHO.
Could you tell us more: the diameter of the coil wire and the passive resistance (ohms) of the said coil?

Best

[hartiberlin]

Hi theb3e,
very nice built !

To charge up the cap you must put a graetz rectifier bridge across the
coil ( in parallel with thecoil ) and then going into the cap
from the plus andminus output of the rectifier bridge.

This way it will charge up the cap when the commutator switches off.

Then the  Back EMF will charge up the cap via the high voltage radio frequency
bursts of the sparking...

This will really charge up the cap very fast.

Good luck.

Regards, Stefan.

[theb3e]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys, Thanks for the tip about rectifiers & caps, gives me something to try next. I told myself if I can make it work with stuff thats laying around the house, then it might be worth throwing money into. This "No Frills Motor was inspired by chuck2na off of YouTube, I mean..if you can make a motor out of a flower pot, lol anything is possible 

Last night I thought I would try and capture some of the unused potential of the spinning rotor and added a small
generator circuit to the end of the little newman motor. It's in now way connected to the newman coil and is really a separate unit with it's
own output. The coils are wired in a counter-clockwise to clockwise configuration. It generates enough juice to power an LED but you can clearly see the inefficiencies in this design -ha.ha, the  CD is wobbling like crazy from the weight of the neo magnets and not being centered/balanced properly.. but it still works and the 9V still pumping the unbalanced load for long periods of time.. pretty interesting, this Newman motor now has 1 input power source and 2 output power sources both with different output voltages.
Does anyone here know of a Newman Motor Builders forum? I would like to take this somewhere apporopriate, my intention was not to hijack this thread..

Here is a vid showig the small generator I just added..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0rCLUe1lg

[linda933]

@theb3e

With not one single post since June 28 before yours, I'd say you revived this thread from certain death, rather than hijacking it!

@Stefan

Thread title promises "positive proof".  I read every post so far.  I guess I missed the positive proof.  Is it when the video guy tells us so?  Is that the proof positive?  I didn't see any meters or scopes there.  Did you intend to imply that it was charging the battery faster than discharging it so that it would logically run forever while supplying motion and excess electric energy? 

Seriously, maybe I'm blind and stupid...I don't see the proof of that anywhere here.  Could you point it out please?  I'm thinking of building one for my class project and I need to know what exactly you consider to be the positive proof here.  Thanks!

Linda