Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[z_p_e]

Cam,

Your test sounds pretty conclusive to me, if you returned the coils to their original positions, as it sounds like you did.

The FETs should give you better power output, and less power input too. I doubt however that the wire loops will have any effect....but we'll see.

I have a theory as to why the wire loop diminished your output slightly in the original configuration, and that is because it is a shorted wire loop (or two loops to be exact).

I believe it is well known that a single shorted turn on any coil will severely, if not totally reduce the coil's ability to store a magnetic field. Although the wire loops are at 90? to the coils, the upper loop may be at such an angle as to have a slight effect on the coils' fields, thus reducing their outputs. It's a theory anyway. 

Darren

[replicator]

Just for a moment... I DONT BELIVE MAGIC. Every phenomen has a physic background. (Just maybe we havent found the way to describe it with mathematics yet.)

Is anybody tried to disconnect the CC's transformers secondary output from the Moebius? You tell about disconnecting the Moebius loop, and dont thinking about the CC coils and Moebius loop interaction. Yes, I know you will be not measure excessible power, just something "inducated" voltage. But...

[offtopik]
I have been thinking about the FE excessing methods sameness for many years ago. Phisics says that the electrons in wires dont able to travel just about a few centimeters per second because of irregular crystal grid caused resistance. In supercnductivity the electrons travels in Cooper-pairs. There is an interaction between the electron pairs and cristal grid.
[on]

The TPU=ECD is quite different. If the magnetic fux is eliminated by Moebius (or bifilar wounding) the electrons doesnt will travel faster!!!! In this device it seems that the magnetic field from CC coils primaries just makes pulsating electromagnetic fileld. Dont forget if anybody knows Maxwell equations! It told that the electric component of Pointing vector is perpendicular to the magnetic. Why is it importnt for TPU?
JUST because the CC coils will be inducate electric field between the Moebius loop two wires bacause it is perpendicular to it. Just a reason why Moebius (or simple two wires) is necessary in CC coils.

WHAT is itself the Moebius loop(s)? It has two different goals. Firstly it is a condenser, yes, simple conenser where the CC coils inducate electric potential. Secondly it is a consenser of CC coil's secondary part together built a parallell LC tank. (For my mind, with physic considerations it is magic.) And why interest to use induction less condenser as a "secondary of induced Pointing electric potential"? Hmmm... To prevent black out of flux induced potential, so the Poining potential will remain.

What is the benefit the Moebius loop from LC physics scope? Yep... It seems that it is a induction less capacitor. DONT throw it from the device. Just thinking about: without it, you will get a simple transformers (maybe Tesla like) from your CC coils. In every frequency. Thats all. With it, it will be the capacitor of CC's secondary and will resonate... And imagine: If the Moebius capacitor will give extra energy from Pointing potential, at the right phase, within its resonance with CC's secondary... the energy will be increasing.

So I have several pages with Maxwell equtations derived to enable  over unity. Is anybody interested in Maxwell mathematics? If yes, I will post the full mathematic hypotezis to this forum.  (Note: It is nor my discovery, as I know is not known, but I found similarity between the hipotezis and the physics of TPU...)

Sorry but I dont think currently what is the importance of "3 of frequencies" and "rotating field", because it seems that the three CC coils and the Moebius "capacitor" has 1 main resonance. Maybe the Moebius has own resonance freq, if anybody from you are HAM (radio amateur) it would be greatful check it with a GDO. Or  an another explanation that the 3 frequencies in phase, the Pointing potential induced waves will be travelling in Moebius, and it seems that with two "in pahase" frequency, there is no direction because of its 2 dimensional speading in Moebius (just imagine a line with 2 point on it, you are able to start moving in line two direction: to another point or to opposite direction... there is no synchronization).
The third freqency will be CLOSE the loop from the standpoint of transmission of waves in a line. If it in phase, it will blocking (black out) and/or adding wave with accurate timings. Thats why we need three different source to start spinning of waves toward of Moebius line...

Finally, Its too late to continue my brainstorming, I hope somebody curious about finding  exact parameters of this circuit and WHY important every little element of this construction, and WHY SM told as he told. I try to understand all and if you want I try to interpret it for US.

Regards,
replicator

PS: sorry for my English and the long post.

[z_p_e]

Replicator,

You are right in that the wire loops do form a capacitor, and that they are in parallel with the secondaries.

However, the wire loops are actually quite short, and in comparison to the much higher self-capacitance of each secondary coil (and all 3 in parallel), this loop capacitance would shift the resonant frequency of the secondaries only slightly.

Other than a slightly lower resonance frequency, the circuit and operation remain unchanged.

Regards,
Darren

[Motorcoach1]

Good thought Replicator. I don't have my scope working and it may be a gonner but what I'd like to see if the mobius wire was replaced with RGB58 (coax cable)-sheathing removed,  so the skin effect would be more prominent. the Rf would be on the outside of the wire and the AG material would be moot.   

[mrd10]

Any comments from Otto and Roberto on Cams latest testing?