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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#545
June 22, 2007, 11:19:37 PM
Quote from: MrMag on June 22, 2007, 10:41:48 PM
Also, the 50 Hz signal you are now getting is probably coming from your mains supply. Do you have fluorescent fixtures near by?

Tim

@ Tim
Otto said:  In the primary  at 50 - 60kHz sine waves are created and the secondary coil is an amplifier.

Not 50 hz.  So no, it is not from the lighting or mains.  LOL

@ Everyone
Please build it before critiquing it.  Do you expect one day, a coil suddenly puts out 100 Watts.  No research and development.  No putting ideas into it.  No replicating it.  I think some have over zealous expectation of what the initial discover of how the TPU works should look like.  This is it.  Mechanics will change.  Controllers have already change, I can not even keep up with it.

And Yesterday, WaveWatcher gave a gift of information from experience to bring it to the next level.  I have scheduled with my partner to experiment this Sunday afternoon.  He has limited time, so I am constrained by his schedule, but we are ready.  Our coil is done.  Our parts are in.  Hours spent soldering the legs on the IRF3707.  Sunday we look for the seed and move it towards the top of the RE spike and watch it convert to a Sine Wave and produce electricity.

There are many many TPU's.  SM said they wound hundreds, looking for the best set up.  Some have given up without even replicating this first one.  After replication, I take my coil to the next step.  Version 2.0 one might say and do as WaveWatcher had said.

SM's words:
"15 Yes there is an inertia.
16 Yes there is a genuine gyroscopic effect when the units are on.
Everybody has noticed that when held and in operation, the units have a
definite vibration and have a gyroscopic effect.
They seam to resist being moved through the air.
When placed on a smooth surface it is very pronounced.
Some of you should think about that.
17 Rotation of field. . . How many people think about that.
If you could have a field that you could think of as a big ball.
And you could rotate it in two directions what would the ramifications
be?"

This is what version 2.0 AFTER replication will bring us.  WaveWatchers Opposing signals will bring this.  Questioning is good.  But please understand that we are now putting in 3 frequencies (I ranted on this about 20 times if you recall in my thread)  We have the mobius, the form of which will also change along with the mechanics, etc.

SM said there were wires perpindicular wrapped on each of the three collectors and wires wrapped perpindicular around ALL three collectors.  The mechanics WILL change, but let's do this one, post our results.  Learn from them.  Experiment and grow as a team until we have it self running.  I predict this will be before September 15th.  I think that soon you will all be amazed at how fast the work progresses. 

Don't hesitate to replicate, post and then add the next step.  We can all still play with our own coils.  As GK said, we have the controls for speed, we know about the frequencies, square pulse and WaveWatchers opposing signals. 

Enough said.  "Hope differed makes the heart sick."  So instead, build, and see for yourself!
Thank you all for your time,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

MrMag

#546
June 22, 2007, 11:37:24 PM
Ooops, sorry Otto. I guess I should have realized that you would of known better. Just didn't see the "K" in from of the "Hz". I think that the 50 just stood out for me.

Bruce,

Thanks for correcting me :D

BTW my mobius is built and coils wound. The 4427's showed up today. Hoping to find some time this weekend to play.

Tim

steve_whiss

#547
June 23, 2007, 10:45:16 AM

..just to say I've put a long ramble with an idea how TPU might work on

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2577.msg36643.html#msg36643

steve

hartiberlin

#548
June 23, 2007, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: -[marco]- on June 22, 2007, 10:14:14 PM
Otto,

It has been 3 months now since you claimed you had a WORKING TPU and you claimed you could PROVE it.

That certainly catched my attention and i dropped all my experiments aswell as all my research activities to catch up with you.

You told "us" we were wasting our time and all our coils were wound the wrong way.....etc.

I was wondering how can you be so sure since you do not have any idea of what i was actually doing.

Now you are talking about the number of turns...
This makes me think....
I guess we all know what happens when we wrap bifilar coils with variable number of turns.

It is called stepping up.

untill now i have not seen any real indication of your so called "creation of energy"

Here is a pdf, so you can see what you claimed, in case you forgot.

I am going to contin

ue my own experiments because they were going quite nicely before all of this.....

Marco.

Hi Marco,
I agree, it would be good, if Otto or Roberto could now
show a few pictures or a video, with which they could prove,
that they are getting more power out  than in.

As Jason told me recently he had his digital ampmeter on the AC
setting, when he measured his input current and the current went
down, so I don?t trust this measurement anymore.

So all in all, we don?t yet have a conclusive proof, that these
TPU-ECDs really put more power out  than is going into them..

We would really like to see a bright 60 Watts bulb just being powered
by less than 20 Watts input.. Can anybody show this conclusively?

Did Otto now get his new scope ?

Sorry, I was away for a few days and have to catch up.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

wattsup

#549
June 23, 2007, 04:15:38 PM
@stefan

It's always good to see you hunting for the wattage in all these proposed systems and devices. I don't think Otto is at the stage yet as this will require more work to tame the beast.

I'll get back to you on the other question.

@otto

I found this pdf file while searching on how to do a center tap in my CCs'.

It discusses IC monolithic transformers. It is a long doc but look on page 14.
http://www.nt.tuwien.ac.at/fileadmin/topics/RF_engineering/da/da/kehrer_da.pdf

If you look at a few paragraphs before each design, this will give you a good rundown. This may not be pertinent but the designs are very inspiring.

@all

I still do not have my circuit made as my personal elecrtonic accumen is limited and my brother is very busy these days. Here is an idea.

If one of you have a Paypal account and can find some time to make me the circuit, I would be more then glad to pay for it. I will also look for a decent frequency generator. Everything else I have. Or, if someone here is in the Montreal area and would like to partner up.

I just can't wait to get this going as I have so many side ideas to test out.

I am sure there are others here that have basic skills and the main hardware on hand but lack the circuit. If the circuit was made in multiples, I am sure some here would be glad to pay for it and participate in the R&D effort. This could be a good way to multiply the hands on testing while ensuring that everyone is using the same thing so we can compare apples to apples.

Obviously, the present Otto circuit needs alot of testing to "Erfinderize" it (my new word meaning "to bring into balance"). It has too much power loss, the negative is totally ignored, the frequency is probably injected at the wrong point and there should be a DC current pulsed. But all this can be better shown once I can start some testing on my own so no comment is necessary. I don't want to mix the cards.

@cOmster

I noticed on your video that you have a BK Precision 4003A. Is this good. Do you have three of these? Would I need three of these or is there a unit that can produce three frequencies in one unit.
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