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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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z_p_e

Hi Roberto,

Yes, your coil parameters would be helpful. I calculated mine and have no idea if I am really that close or not. It would be nice to confirm. I did ask for coil specs from anyone, but none have been posted yet.

@Thedane:

If you look at the circuit I drew in PSPICE, you'll see that I have accounted for and included the coupling between the primary and secondary coils. I even modeled the inductors better by including the self capacitance and the paralell resistance. Without these elements, the model does not work in a realistic manner. The only thing that I did not model, was the inter-coil capacitance between the primary and secondary.

With respect to the mobius loop, I still am not convinced even a little, that it is contributing any special effects or processes in regards to the results that are being observed. Therefore, IMO, it does not need to be modeled. People keep forgetting that the manner in which it is connected in the circuit dos not constitute a coil, whether it be a mobius one or not. It is simply a shorted loop of wire attached to each output terminal as I have drawn in my "otto_roberto_simplified02.pdf" file that was posted.

Sorry Roberto, no disrespect intended.

Regards,
Darren

ronotte

Hi Darren,

I do respect your opinion as well NO PROBLEM. I've had some time the opportunity to observe weird thinghs during my 'technical' life, well I tell you that this ECD deserve an high grade of attention even if at the end is like you correctly said: only 'a coil and a shorted piece of wire' @90 degree. The difference appears to be the presence of the Mobius loop. You can do as I did many, many tests with different setups/design, spending lot of my precious time (months) like the others without obtaining a result, well I mean I succeed in converting into usable power the RE peaks, or converting the NMR bursts features into some usable power but still well under unity.

I'm a standard college educated so I know and you know, how what we have so hardly learned, well when I saw for the first time IN FRONT OF MY EYES the SINUS FORMING PIECE BY PIECE under my command I almost fall from my chair and get stunned for hours..than days..then I don't know ...ask my wife. I tried, then re-check, then check it again......at the end I convinced myself that really there were something repeteable, deterministic and REAL. 

What to say..I'm still, as you say, incredulous, so if I'm allowed, please DO IT as only if you see with your own eyes probably you could believe and that's great for all of us help to find the answers we are striving to find.

One final argument: I've tried to take out the smaller Mobius ring - NO WAY to obtain a sign; I tried to increase to 1mt the Mosfet+heath-sink - NO WAY to obtain a sign; I changed the heath sink metal, found that each metal gives a complete different signature (Seed)...so I can tell you what metal is just observing the signature!.. it seems that ECD does absorb particles (?) from every thing near itself till a certain distance.

Hope to to give you soon as many details as possible to help in your simulation model, i believe that this could be very, very intersesting but only finding a way to include the Mobius piece of wire.

Regards

Roberto

chrisC

Roberto & Otto:

My take on this is that there is definitely a interesting anomaly currently reproducible by some and has to do with the mobius and maybe affected by materials of some sort, like what you have fully described.

The 'problem' is at this moment is the difficulty for the engineering grade folks like Darren and others to be convinced unless there is reproducible documentation on how the power is measured on the Input/Ouput. And this request is certainly good as far as engineering proofs are concerned.

So, are we able to go this extra mile, especially those who can reproduce the sinus, seed etc. Unfortunately, that will require electrical engineering personnel with solid experience in test measurements and having good test equipment too!

I sure hope I can find some time next month to start this process, since I got the scope from Tishatang last week!

Regards
chrisC

Jdo300

HI All,

I finally finished my MOSFET box. It took me a lot longer than I expected with all the soldering and snipping of wires. I attached some photos of it below. Hopefully I'll find some time this week to connect it up to my TPU this week and continue testing with my harmonic pulse board.

God Bless,
Jason O

Gustav22

@Jdo300 and all

When Otto holds a standard "mains tester" aka "Test light" to point PHASE, the neon lamp in the mains tester lights up.
If he holds it to point ZERO it does not light.
This is why he named the respective points "Phase" and "Zero". These are the two points with the max. difference in potential - needed to power the load.

In Europe these mains testers come as screw drivers and you can see one here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasenpr%C3%BCfer
and this is exactly the tool Otto uses.

If the mains tester lights on both points (Phase & Zero) or if it does not light at any of the two he knows that the currently used pulsing frequencies are not the ideal ones.

If the above explanation is faulty Otto and or Roberto will correct me.

@Roberto,

I have a few questions and some thoughts.

First the questions:
In the pic of your ECD I see 1 CC (transformer) made from wire with red insulation coating.
- Is this wire with red insulation coating the primary of the CC?
- If the answer is "yes" where did you hide the secondary windings?
;-)

Do your primary and secondary windings have equal mass/weight/volume or do you think this is not important?

Now my thoughts:
Otto and you seem to agree on the fact, that the CCs are acting as transformers.
N.Tesla has a patent 593,138 on an Electrical Transformer in which primary and secondary are linked/coupled just as in the CCs of the ECD (a quite extraordinary feature).

What is special about this patent apart from the connection between primary and secondary?
Well I think the most important quote from this patent is:
Quote from: Tesla's patent 593,138
ââ,¬Å"If the rate at which a current traverses the circuit, including the coil, be one hundred and eighty-five thousand miles per second, then a frequency of nine hundred and twenty-five  per second would maintain nine hundred and twenty-five stationary waves in a circuit one hundred and eighty-five thousand miles long, and each wave would be two hundred miles in length.  For such a frequency I should use a secondary fifty miles in length, so that at one terminal the potential would be zero and at the other maximum."

Here Tesla says, that the length of his secondary winding should be exactly 1/4 (a quarter) wavelength of the signal.
Quote from: Tesla's patent 593,138
... so that at one terminal the potential would be zero and at the other maximum

It is my opinion, that the wavelength/frequency of the signal in the Möbius collector loops is such, that a standing wave is formed in each loop. This is why the length of the collector loops are so critical (total length of collector comes to 79.79 cm based on diameter 4" + diameter 6").

And it also is my opinion that the secondary of the CCs/transformers should be just as in Tesla's transformer patent, i.e. a quarter wavelength long.

Now obviously the  problem is to know the correct frequency to calculate the quarter wavelength.
But if I calculate with 26,5 MHz
http://www.chimorg.unifi.it/~chimichi/Cu.html
and a signal propagation speed of 2/3 light speed in copper, the wavelength I get is ca. 7.7 m and so a quarter wavelength comes to ca. 1.9 m as optimum length of the CC secondary.

edit: anybody apart from me notice the relation between 7.7 m (my calculation) and the 0.7979 m collector length?
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