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[pauldude000]

@otto

It probably will help shortening the coil. More turns does equal higher inductance, but with the inductance comes reluctance. The higher reluctance will possibly cause problems with overall circuit efficiency.


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[otto]

Hello all,

@Paul

yes, shortening is logic.

Thanks God, my kids are "old", ha,ha and Im a young optimist, ha,ha.

Otto

[pauldude000]

@all

I have done some research, and at this point have to give a hand to Mr Mark. Bravo!

I am going to post my understanding of this coil, at this point.

You have three collector coils which comprise the actual toroid core, called collectors. These are left as three sepererate coils which may be hokked in series or parallel or any combination thereof.

Around this core, 90 degree out of magnetic phase, are wrapped three or more (I would personally use four) control coils, each out of phase with the other, though in phase with the tooroid material.

Three control coils would be minimum necessary to induce a traveling (or rotating) magnetic wave around the toroid.

By Steves description (everyone should read his "parable"), three frequencies are necessary, which makes sense, to make a traveling "kick" or spike. Why three? You have your main frequency (5khz pulsed dc) ON Q, then one "push" frequency (slightly lower and off Q) and one "pull" frequency (slightly higher and off Q). This will leave a spiky "noisy" signal (full of "hash" or signal noise) racing around the toroid. (Joe300, your experimental tests on the scope video were bang on....)

If this signal is resonant with the collector coils, its speed of rotation around the collectors would be at maximum. Imagine the magnetic field as a cylinder larger in cross-section than the toroid which is hollow. The "Center hole" of this magnetic cylinder is slightly SMALLER than the diameter of the collector wires. 

Therefore would naturally enter the "garden hose" effect, in that the three collector coils, naturally "full" of electrons, would emit a traveling wave of electrons, due to the applied "pressure" of the "squeezing" magnetic field. It is not inducing current as you would with an ordinary generator (lines of flux cutting wires), but in operation be more like a particle accelerator, or toroidal electron waveguide! The is why the output is DC MIXED WITH 5KHZ (as pulsed DC) AND HASH! The collectors electrons are pure DC by definition, since they are flowing in ONLY one direction.

If I am right, then the frequencies would not be out of phase by a large margin, since you would want the sharpest waveform possible on the leading edge of the wave? For most voltage kick. Has everyone heard of a "kick" coil? A kick coil is a solenoid where amperage is turned into voltage by electron inertia due to a solenoids magnetic field. These were used to fire spark plugs, or provide a high voltage pulse, when the contact was rapidly opened.

Now the "Kick" Mr. Marks referred to is similar, BUT NOT THE SAME. This is the "Kick" given when a current suddenly STARTS to flow. Imagine a garden hose, with a sprayer attachment set on "jet". This is the current pulse you fire into the circuit. Now imagine a five gallon bucket half full of water, and this is the conductor. Now, what happens if you pulse a blast of water into the bucket? For this scenario, assume that you spray in at an angle.

The water stream hits the water in the bucket, and the water in the bucket depresses at the point of impact, but then humps up and "splashes" against the side of the bucket. If the water from the sprayer is constant, the effect dies out. If the spray is pulsed, then the effect is constant. If the pulse is timed right, when the wave comes back and the pulse hits the wave going in the same direction as the pulse (pulsed at resonance of the bucket), then the effect is amplified.

The magnet shown in some demonstrations has a very important function as well. If placed right, it forces the traveling electromagnetic wave to travel in only one direction.

That is my understanding at this point.

However, if this is true, then it also might explain some other effects I noticed in the videos.

1. You may not have taken this into consideration, but the electric field in the collectors would be at right angles to the rotating field, IE no drag or back EMF.

2. The electric field in the collectors would be in sync with the rotating magnetic field, which if I remember my electron theory would mean that the output would be current leading voltage, instead of current lagging the voltage, which goes a long way to explaining the "wierd arc".

Any thoughts or comments? Is there anything I missed?

P.S. (Note that I also see two other possible ways to make the windings for the same effect. Examine a rotating wave induction motor windings and say ahah! )

Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

I made an error in my observations.

In point 1, I stated "electric field" but actually meant "magnetic field". IE the induced magnetic field in the collectors would be 90 degrees out of phase with the rotating magnetic field.

sorry!

Paul Andrulis

[innovation_station]

with ecd

WINGS  remember WINGS

i say no more it has already been said

i have not built ecd

but i dont have to to understand how important the WINGS  are

ist

as i know about wireless internet transmition  the antennas must be line of sight for that to operate properly there is no diffrence with ecd  they must aling at the right angle for the transmittion to take place  no?

i have installed many wireless internet links using varous gear if it aint lined up it dont work as i beleave it is the same thing with ecd cuz it only makes sence what is the correct angle hummmmm

i have herd it some where but will not repeate it as im not sure the exact angle but with my own simple expairments i have done with neos i see the same thing the angle is critical or the re is not produced

but hey maybe im just foaming at the mouth agin lol!!