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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: ronotte on June 13, 2007, 11:15:07 AM
@Gyulasun,

please paj attention, the schematic posted in my doc TPU=ECD is TESTED on my ECD. Anyway I've just followed the configuration suggested by the constructor of IRF7307 8International Rectifier) that you find attached, please look at fig 9. Using that approach I could use a wide range of posibilities (including the NE555) as input signal.

In my opinion the very low output impedance showed by said 7307 config is just what needed to correctly drive the power MOSFET properly charging his input capacitance augmented by the Miller effect. That's just what needed to drive the MOSFET into avalanche mode - fundamental.

Hi Roberto,

Thank you very much for showing  Fig. 9 in your attachment.

Because it shows the gates of the 7307 are tied up to +12V via the 1kOhm resistor and this already justifies for me a correct control of the driver as shown!  Now that you showed this, I fully accept now this driver connection too. 

Best Regards
Gyula





chrisC

Darren:

I too love to understand the 'theory' behind Otto's TPU. At the moment there are many conjectures, bits and pieces may be true but I seriously doubt anyone for sure understands this completely. Even SM didn't know why the unit ceased working when flipped upside down.

All of us are seeing effects not obvious to common understanding. It's just like driving. Do you need to know every aspect of car mechanics to enjoy the benefits of driving?

I can tell you this much. If you read the little of Otto's theory explanation in his disclosure and still needed absolute proof, you will not believe his unwritten theory. Even Einstein hasn't gone there!

Well, maybe you really should just spend $18 and 1 hour of your time and answer all the questions and then get totally excited to help us or disprove this project? I also love to disprove this myself but the dice is rolling the other way!

Cheers

chrisC

dutchy1966

To make a start with the theory behind the tpu, I think I have a pretty clear picture of what the source of the kicks is....
Of couse this is just my view on things, based on information provided by dave Lowrance and the c c c p group. See: magnetism.fateback.com/overunity.htm

Seeing the kicks shown on Otto and Roberto's test have the exact NMR ring of the copper atom's nucleus, it is pretty clear that the kick the (lagged) turning of the nucleus. The copper atoms nucleus has a magnetic hook and therfore its movement can be manipulated. (which is done by the fast rising leading edge of the pulsing).
When this nucleus is starting to turn it also moves the electrons in its electron cloud (through magnetic coupling in the atom)
This moving of the electrons is the free "kick" SM is talking about. The free energy is in there because it costs far less energy to create the kick then what you get back from the ringing of the nucleus, especially when you consider you get another kick when the control pulse switches off..... 

Hope this a start to a better understanding of what is going on inside the tpu/ecd

Regards

Robert

z_p_e

Quote from: chrisC on June 13, 2007, 11:54:39 AM
Darren:

All of us are seeing effects not obvious to common understanding. It's just like driving. Do you need to know every aspect of car mechanics to enjoy the benefits of driving?

I can tell you this much. If you read the little of Otto's theory explanation in his disclosure and still needed absolute proof, you will not believe his unwritten theory. Even Einstein hasn't gone there!

Well, maybe you really should just spend $18 and 1 hour of your time and answer all the questions and then get totally excited to help us or disprove this project? I also love to disprove this myself but the dice is rolling the other way!

Cheers

chrisC


Chris, your enthusiasm is admirable.

However, I have been experimenting, building, and designing for a long time, and also seen "wolf" cried far more times than I care to remember. So perhaps you can appreciate my skeptecism and objectivity.

So far in the posted results, I have not seen anything that can not be explained with conventional theories. I have also not seen measured results that could be described as conclusive nor flawless.

I will not spend the time building this because I do not believe it works according to the claims being made. Insufficient and unrelible data is all that has been presented thus far and that won't convince me it is worthwhile to build it. I have other projects going, including the SM-TPU.

Surely Otto and Roberto must have a theory of how the device operates, or at least what effect they were trying to achieve by their configuration? They must also know if and how a RMF is created, a turbine effect exists, what the kicks are and how they manifest etc. etc.

I am sure SM knows very well how to achieve the effect, and what it is, even though he may not be positive where the energy is coming from. I would expect Otto and Roberto to be aware of these things too with their device, and to help all replicators and non-replicators understand what is being built, and how it should operate and perform, a brief description of the circuit and what is trying to be achieved is what I had in mind. I didn't see that in the pdf that was released.

Darren

Super God

Now this is pretty sweet.  Once I get the parts ordered, which should be about a week, I'm going to start my own replication of otto's replication of the tpu.  What a mouthful.  Just need to whiddle up a frequency generator, should'nt be too hard, I'm not looking for anything fancy anyways.  Once I get my new multimeter too, that'll help with this, right now all I've got is a cheap-o analog meter and 3 spools of 18 gauge magnet wire for a turntable motor.  I can at least get the basic circuit done!

Have a great day.
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