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Overunity Machines Forum



Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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kokomoj0

Quote from: z_p_e on June 15, 2007, 03:03:42 PM
The problem with the tests and evidence presented here so far, is it falls short of these requirements. Granted, many if not most of the testers may not be qualified electronics test people, but there are many suggestions being made here to try and help out in this respect.

Darren

Ok people have asked several important questions so here are the answers.

So for those who are interested in the truth here it is, no bias, just truth. Take it or leave it.

First; what is the most important thing above all else when designing an energy device?

*The ability to perform correct and accurate measurements.

There is NOTHING more important than this. a device is 100% worthless without it.

Most "free energy" devices fail because the inventor does not correctly measure the device.

Those who willfully fake this stuff, the con artists will never allow anyone to "properly" test their devices, that is the first mark of outright fraud. 

So what do you all need to do? 

Measure it properly!

If you properly measure your device taking into consideration all the things engineering people take into consideration then engineers will agree and work with you instead of drinking beer while you are winding and testing and slaving in the lab.

Inventors have to understand what a correct test is.

A correct test is properly measuring the input and properly measuring the output, then comparing the ratio of the 2.

That has not been done on the tpu according to the way an engineer would do it.

So here is how you can do it in a "crude" manner to see if you are even close to UO.  If you are "close" then we can go to more accurate and sophisticated measuring techniques.


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First you start with the power source and from your power source you go to a series shunt to measure the input current.

I personally use 10 - 1 ohm 100 watt resistors in parrallel to yield .1 ohm at 1000 watts for my "series shunt" to measure input power. 

We can now use the current through the shunt and th4e voltage to accurately calculate the power into the device(s).

Now from your shunt you want to block any rf feeding back into the supply so you put a big coil in series with yout your shunt.  Use something like a 10milli henry coil smoothed by a 10000uf cap.

Now you have nice accurate way to easily measure your filtered source for your generator or your high power output drivers or both which ever way you go.

Put a dc rectifier on the output of your tpu run that to another filter cap and finally the load.

Scope/meter across the shunt for I, and then a meter from the shunt to ground to measure V, finally scope and meter the output across either a known load (resistor) or a shunt and a load.

The object behind this is that it significantly reduces your margin for error because even the crappiest meter can read "pure" or well filtered DC quite easily and quite accurately and so if you are all correct in your believe this will prove it beyond even an engineers doubt that you are on to something that "really" works.

As far as helping is concerned this is it.  There is no better tool at your disposal than to know how to correctly assess your project and what i have given you here is a very crude and simple means of testing (most) energy devices accurately.
 
I hope this serves to clear up where i am coming from and why "everyone" should insist that anyone who wants them to believe in an energy device should at a minimum "insist" on clear and accurate output/input measurements before committing themselves to heavily in these sorts of things.

So here is the math.

Most have gens feeding your power circuitry.

              output
CO =        ----------
              input (-/+) feed circuitry

Granted this is severely over simplified but i think most engineers out here would agree this is one of the most clear cut sure fire way to eliminate skeptism when presenting measured data to a professional in the industry simply because most meters read dc just fine.

Showing a light bulb or a drill or even a tv simply is not a bonafide test and no engineer will ever agree it is.  (this is indisputable)

Granted this setup is crude but it will work and it will yield (with reasonable shielding techniques) accurate results.

Another important point on this is that it will tell you if your latests changes are an improvement or worsening and tell you exactly how much, so that will allow you to quantify your changes rather than kinda sorta bright and brighter dimmer etc. 
If someone gets really close to unity then we can take this to the next step and account for all power used/gained in the system on a per system basis.

regards,
kj





z_p_e

Yes I had considered simulating this beast, and once I began thinking how exactly to model the ES coupling, I realized there is none, or very little.

That's when I noticed the mobius loops were not serving any purpose at all, other than providing a nice radiating element for the HF/RF. (Gee no wonder you guys were cooking yourselves ;) ) Oh, and btw, SM never mentioned any safety concerns regarding radiation, and his device does not apparently radiate much at all, in fact it is very sensitive to external EM interference.

It would be interesting to sim the circuit however without the mobius loop (couldn't sim with it anyway), and see if I can get similar waveforms Otto and Roberto got.

In theory, and if I am correct, removing the mobius loop should have little to no effect on the output power or the waveforms. However, I've been wrong before.

Regards,
Darren

motofox

@ comster,

Theres a very good high resolutions webcam software called webcam XP, it lets you  alter various things like resolution and frame rate. But your still gonna have same problem because your limited to your upload speed.

An ideal program would be camfrog, it lets you stream your video and audio to a central server, and then 50 people could connect with no loss. the video is smooth at like 20 fps with audio, even with loads of people watching the same stream, its the ulimate multicam conference software. the freeware download client lets the client veiw 1 camera at a time, where as the pro version lets you view inlimited cameras at any one time.  might be worth looking into,Hope this helps...


c0mster


turbo

ok so basicly we need to get this thing to run on something like a car battery and take some of the output and feed it back thrue a voltage regulator circuit which will furnish the power to the control circuit.

then as the system is energized from the car battery, we can disconnect it and if it keeps running, it would awnser alot of questions going round at the moment.

we can also switch in diodes to prevent the power from flowing back into the driving circuit.

Marco.