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Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters

Started by hartiberlin, June 22, 2007, 06:23:58 PM

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niofox

Quote from: guruji on April 25, 2010, 03:03:28 PM
It's ok then do it as you like but the diode was there.
Ok bye

I am definitely going to try your setup and learn from it guruji.  Thank you for the diagram
In my current setup with 2 coils, my 2nd transistor is getting warm while the first is not, I am thinking that your setup may solve this

niofox

Ok so I've been messing with various configurations for this and have had to revise some earlier observations.
For example:  Throwing out the battery fluid and refilling with water actually made it worse after all, so no magic there like I was reading somewhere else.  (Tried this for 2 different batteries, same result)  However.  It looks like when you get your battery charged to a certain point and it looks like its really slowing down, shaking it up a bit seems to help it move on quicker.  The voltage will dip a bit, but then it'll run past its previous point pretty quick.

Using multiple coils is tricky.  Each variation I tried always uses about twice as much power from your input source, but doesn't seem to have the same effect on charging rate, possibly because I'm wasn't using the shaking method mentioned above.  Kinda hard to do that while you're asleep >.>

If I was still using a rotor, it might actually charge better if I put the battery on the same surface with it so the vibrations keep the fluid shaken up.

From what I understand of how batteries work, when you put a load on it, or try to charge it, the plate will become charged one way.  Then when you stop, it has a "relaxation time".  So my theory is, you could kind of force the relaxation while charging by shaking up the solution.

If I'm am spouting a load of rubbish someone please rescue me from my noobdom!  All I know is self-taught so any and all corrections are welcome!

niofox

-= Coil Configuration Observations =-

So currently I am not using the 20k resistor, or the 10k resistor, or a diode to bridge any parts of the MJL21194 transistor
I'm using 1 coil, 1/2 as large as the coils in my 2 coil setup.  It seems to charge alot better than the larger single coil.
So I thought hey, leme make a really small coil.  I pulled my largest coil that failed horrible (charged very poorly) and took about 20 winds off it.  The geometry is the same as my current coil.  When I tried this much smaller coil setup the amp draw was much higher, the charging seems to be increased as well (couldn't do long-term testing) but the transistor got hot real fast.  The coil itself didn't get hot at all.  Not sure if its because I didn't leave it long enough or what but ... yea.  I figure I'll have to try parallel multiple transistors to really test that out.  As soon as I learn how to hook that up I'll give it a go.

-= Battery Charging Observations =-

Ok so I'm seeing just as I have read around the internet, that as you charge batteries with this system they reach a certain point where the voltage doesn't increase anymore.  I have observed this, and in addition, I've seen the voltage go back down a bit if its left longer (I usually switch the charger off at this point)
The last post I made was on forced relaxation by shaking.  Now while this had a short-term effect I'm observing a bit better effect if you leave the battery to relax by itself with the charger disconnected (actually I switch to charging another battery).  Just a 30 minute rest got the voltage maximum up another .04 rather than .01 ~ .02 from the shaking method.  So I'm going to keep alternating batteries and see how high I can get them without discharging then at all

guruji

Hi Niofox you should read Bedini C20 file about charging. Bedini says that one should charge and make it rest then continue until it reaches 15v. This should keep the batteries charged for long again as new.
Try to find that file it's very interesting it's somewhere in this forum.
Bye bye.

niofox

Quote from: guruji on May 03, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
Hi Niofox you should read Bedini C20 file about charging. Bedini says that one should charge and make it rest then continue until it reaches 15v. This should keep the batteries charged for long again as new.
Try to find that file it's very interesting it's somewhere in this forum.
Bye bye.

Thank you so much for this information.  I have found an article when I ran a search based on your comment: http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Bedini%20Monopole%203%20Group%20Experiment.pdf
As well as a number of other links that I will investigate