The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Top Gun]

Top Gun,

If you were to meet Milkovic, what would you say to him?

Specifically,
(1) What are your comments on his existing device?
(2) How you can improve his device?
(3) How does the Lee-Tseung theory explain the workings of his device?
(4) What are the known devices that are better than his device?
(5) Are there limitations to the further development of his device?

(2) How you can improve his device?

(a)   The most obvious is to increase the effective g (9.8 m/s/s).  It is difficult to this value on the surface of the Earth.  But if we use magnetic bob and impose external magnetic fields, this value can be greatly increased to 10 times or more.

(b)   He has already used a heavy Bob.  He can now use heavy magnet.  Suitable magnetic shielding will also help.

(c)   Changing the length of the pendulum would not help much.  More gravitational energy will be lead out with increasing length.  However, the period of swing will also increase.  The energy drawn out per second will cancel out.

(d)   If he changes the length of the pendulum or the effective g, he needs to redo the swinging lever part so as to maintain the couple of the two systems.  More tuning again!

(e)   The push can be via pulsing electromagnetic coils. The output part can have an electricity generating system and the electricity generated can be feedback to the pulsing electromagnetic coils.

(f)   If the efficiency of (e) is high enough, there is possibility of supplying starting energy only.  The device might then be self-sustaining and might even produce some extra electricity to do other work.  (The value of 12 times more output energy is important.)

[Top Gun]

Top Gun,

If you were to meet Milkovic, what would you say to him?

Specifically,
(1) What are your comments on his existing device?
(2) How you can improve his device?
(3) How does the Lee-Tseung theory explain the workings of his device?
(4) What are the known devices that are better than his device?
(5) Are there limitations to the further development of his device?

(3) How does the Lee-Tseung theory explain the workings of his device?
I shall quote reply 2 of this thread.

? Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 09:21:57 AM ?    Quote

Fun with explaining the Milkovic Pendulum and Lever system

Reference on this forum:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1763.msg39646.html#msg39646

Tseung: "Now we can use this thread to explain every known Over Unity device published.  The idea is to check whether the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory is applicable to all of them.  If so, can the Lee-Tseung Theory suggest improvement to the devices."

Lin: "You are ambitious.  Since you will never build an OU device yourself, there is no harm is making constructive suggestions.  I suppose you would start with the Milkovic Pendulum first."

Tseung smiled: "Our PCT patent information starts with the Pendulum.  So it is logical to start with the Pendulum example.  In slides 5-8 of http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/taiwan2a.htm, we proved that a horizontal pulse force applied to a pendulum could Lead Out gravitational energy.  To be exact, two parts of horizontal Pulse Energy can Lead Out one part of graviational energy.  Thus Milkovic is Leading Out gravitational energy via Pulsing the Pendulum."

Lin: "Does the lever movement contribute anything?"

Tseung: "Yes.  The Lever Movement can be thought of as a vibrational system.  The Movement of the Pendulum Bob shifts the effective balancing weight.  Thus the Milkovic system can be thought of as two systems complementing each other - the pendulum and the up-and-down lever.  Milkovic has not completed the feedback loop."

Lin: "Is the Milkovic system an Over Unity Device?"

Tseung: "The Pendulum with a Pulse Force is already an Over Unity Device.  The vibrating Lever with shifting weight is also an Over Unity Device.  The combined system is thus an Over Unity Device."

Lin: "Can some type of pull back string or spring be used to complete the Milkovic feedback loop?  If so, can it run forever and conclusively demonstrate the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory?"

Tseung smiled: "Theoretically possible.  I shall let someone better at engineering to shine and do the actual experiment."

Mr. Tseung already discussed the Milkovic Pendulum in reply 2 of this thread.  It saves me much typing.

[Top Gun]

Top Gun,

If you were to meet Milkovic, what would you say to him?

Specifically,
(1) What are your comments on his existing device?
(2) How you can improve his device?
(3) How does the Lee-Tseung theory explain the workings of his device?
(4) What are the known devices that are better than his device?
(5) Are there limitations to the further development of his device?

(4) What are the known devices that are better than his device?
(5) Are there limitations to the further development of his device?

The Milkovic device can only extract gravitational energy at most twice in one oscillation.  In order to increase efficiency, we should go for rotational systems.  The speed of rotation and the number of pulses or Lee-Tseung Pulls per rotation can be increased a hundred or a thousand times.

Thus the Newman, Bedini, Adams motors are theoretically better than the Milkovic Pendulum.  The ones that are known and demonstrated include the TsingHua, the Wang, the Liang, the Chao devices from China.  The ones from outside China include the EBM machine from Hungary and the 225 HP Pulse motor from USA.  The flux change machines such as the Steven Mark TPU and the Japanese device are also better theoretically.  I am going to quote reply 3 of this thread from Mr. Tseung.

? Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 11:38:21 AM ?   

Limitation of the Milkovic System

Lin: "What is the limitation of the Milkovic System?  Why do you keep referring to it as a toy?"

Lai joined the conversation. "The number of Pulses per second of a pendulum is limited.  It is essentially a function of the length of the string, the Pendulum mass and the gravitational constant.  It cannot be changed easily compared with the rotational speed."

Tseung smiled. "How about the vibration of the Lever?"

Lin quickly interrupted: "Important factors will be the arms of the lever, the weights at the end and the Pulse Force (the shifting pendulum weight).  Am I correct?"

Tseung smiled more. "Looks like I can focus on my fishing."

 

[ltseung888]

Dear Top Gun,

I am back.  Thank you for your many posts.

Please do consider my material as third class and improve them to second or first class.  When I receive them again, I shall treat them as third class and repeat the process.  In this way, our material will keep improving.

I like and accept your new slides.  I shall try to improve them more with the notes feature in PowerPoint.  Forever Yuen will add her voice in the presentation.  I intend to have three presentations ? one in Putonhua; one in Cantonese and one in English.

[ltseung888]

We are now ready to discuss the remaining slides one at a time.  I shall discuss slide 13 first.

In this slide, we show the correct application of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Note the word correct.

Previously, scientists did not realize that gravitational energy could be led out in a pendulum system.  They wrongly assumed that the output energy must be less than the supplied horizontal energy. 

With the new understanding, we now know that 2 units of supplied horizontal energy will lead out an extra 1 unit of gravitational energy approximately.  Three units of energy enters the pendulum system.  From the Law of Conservation of Energy, 3 units of energy should come out if there were no loss.

With these 3 units of output energy, 2 units can be fed back to the input.  One unit can be used to do work or generate electricity.  The 2 units fed back could lead out another 1 unit of gravitational energy again.

Thus theoretically, we can supply an initial 2 units of energy to such a machine.  This machine could keep leading out gravitational energy for us to use.  Such a machine is not the impossible perpetual motion machine that does not need energy.  Such a machine needs energy.  The energy it uses is the gravitational energy that already surrounds us.