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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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Top Gun

Great.  At least I can say that much serious discussion have been Lead Out.

I would like to focus back on slide 3 or pendulum08.jpg.

That slide can be experimentally verified.  The Physics and Mathematics cannot be wrong.  Let us focus on the final position B.  We have the three forces at equilibrium.  Thus we can use the mechanics of parallelogram of forces to analyze them.

I pause for the bullets and cannon balls to come.  Does any physicists dare to say that slide 3 is wrong and the experiments done over 10 million times are wrong???


Kul_ash

Quote from: Top Gun on April 20, 2008, 08:15:24 AM
Great.  At least I can say that much serious discussion have been Lead Out.

I would like to focus back on slide 3 or pendulum08.jpg.

That slide can be experimentally verified.  The Physics and Mathematics cannot be wrong.  Let us focus on the final position B.  We have the three forces at equilibrium.  Thus we can use the mechanics of parallelogram of forces to analyze them.

I pause for the bullets and cannon balls to come.  Does any physicists dare to say that slide 3 is wrong and the experiments done over 10 million times are wrong???



I do. For simple logic! According to Newton's second law, if a body is moving in circular motion, the net resultant force of all the applied force must act towards the center of motion. Your resultant force is acting away from center. Circular motion is not possible and that is not the case with your pendulum. Your pendulum is continuing to move in circular motion when resulting force is away from center. That defies Newton's second law of motion. So it is incorrect with respect to Pendulum motion. As far as simple analysis of three forces is considered without the frame of circular motion, your drawing is correct.
If F = ma then a = F/m and it is a vector. In order to keep object moving in circular motion a has to point towards center. If resulting acceleration is not towards center, there is no way of keeping object in circular motion. Remember your mg is acting downwards so its cos theta component is going to act in opposite direction to the resulting acceleration. So please let me know what force (that you have not shown) is keeping this object in a circular motion?

Top Gun

Quote from: Kul_ash on April 20, 2008, 09:42:26 AM

As far as simple analysis of three forces is considered without the frame of circular motion, your drawing is correct.


We are comparing two static (no motion) situations in pendulum08.jpg.

On the LHS, there is no motion.  It is the initial condition.

On the RHS, there is no motion.  The Lee-Tseung Pull has been applied.  The externally supplied force F has not been let go yet.  The whole system is in equilibrium.  There is no velocity and hence there is no need to consider circular motion.

Do we agree on this point???

Pirate88179

Possibly the entire system (due to the Lee-Tseung constant pules) is in unequal equilibrium? All the forces are unbalanced in a balanced manner.  This is the point where where the output is measured by the input clearly showing both a cop > and < 1.

Bill
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Kul_ash

Quote from: Top Gun on April 20, 2008, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Kul_ash on April 20, 2008, 09:42:26 AM

As far as simple analysis of three forces is considered without the frame of circular motion, your drawing is correct.


We are comparing two static (no motion) situations in pendulum08.jpg.

On the LHS, there is no motion.  It is the initial condition.

On the RHS, there is no motion.  The Lee-Tseung Pull has been applied.  The externally supplied force F has not been let go yet.  The whole system is in equilibrium.  There is no velocity and hence there is no need to consider circular motion.

Do we agree on this point???

If externally applied force is not removed as yet, then how come there is no velocity? How come force is applied and body is stationary?