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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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teslaalset

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 12, 2009, 12:18:29 PM
Bedini motors do not need proximity switches at all because of the bifilar windings of the coils.  When a magnet passes a coil it performs both the duties of the trigger and the power.  That is how we can get up to 300,00 rpms and the timing is always perfect for any given rpm.  Everyone I know has always made their Bedini motors this way.

Bill
Bill,
Using bifilar coils to generate a trigger pulse is one form of bedini motors, I think. Bedini became famous because of his SSG motor that has this bifilar coil. But I don't know anyone that has obtained COP >1 with a replica of the SSG.

In my view using bifilar coils to generate the right trigger point has a big restriction namely the restriction of the tangential range of the trigger orientation toward the rotating magnets.

A more sophisticated form of Bedini's concept is one were the trigger pulse generation is independent from the pickup coil, e.g. a reed relais or optical sensor (or a proximity sensor like Lawrence uses).

Watching Bedini's videos, he has several machines where he claims COP > 1. He never clearly stated that all of these use bifilar coils to keep them going from the information I have studied unil now.
Most replicators focus on the SSG only, because it's simple to replicate.
Maybe the real trick of Bedini is a bit more complicated..., if Bedini's COP > 1 is for real at all.

Pirate88179

Quote from: teslaalset on November 12, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
Bill,
Using bifilar coils to generate a trigger pulse is one form of bedini motors, I think. Bedini became famous because of his SSG motor that has this bifilar coil. But I don't know anyone that has obtained COP >1 with a replica of the SSG.

In my view using bifilar coils to generate the right trigger point has a big restriction namely the restriction of the tangential range of the trigger orientation toward the rotating magnets.

A more sophisticated form of Bedini's concept is one were the trigger pulse generation is independent from the pickup coil, e.g. a reed relais or optical sensor (or a proximity sensor like Lawrence uses).

Watching Bedini's video, he has several machines where he claims COP > 1. He never clearly stated that all of these use bifilar coils to keep them going.
Most replicators focus on the SSG only, because it's simple to replicate.
Maybe the real trick of Bedini is a bit more complicated..., if Bedini's COP > 1 is for real at all.

That is all true as far as I know and I agree with you 100%...especially with your last statement.  None of the 3 that I built are self running...at least not at this time. (grin)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

broli

Tseung, have you had the chance to look at the scope shots yet?

TheDivineOne

Quote from: teslaalset on November 11, 2009, 05:01:37 PM
Thanks!
But what does "M" represent?

Money.  $150,000 HK

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ltseung888

Quote from: teslaalset on November 12, 2009, 12:33:10 PM

A more sophisticated form of Bedini's concept is one were the trigger pulse generation is independent from the pickup coil, e.g. a reed relais or optical sensor (or a proximity sensor like Lawrence uses).

Maybe the real trick of Bedini is a bit more complicated..., if Bedini's COP > 1 is for real at all.

Dear teslaalset,

Your understanding is better than most Forum members.

However, you are still focusing on the operation of the machine rather than the theory behind it.  The Theory is Lead-Out, Lead-Out and Lead-Out.  In order to achieve Lead-Out, you need


1.   An unbalanced wheel or a wheel with non-constant rotational speed.
2.   A Pulsing Mechanism that provides the correct Pulsing Strength and Frequency.
3.   Sufficient time for the Pulsing Mechanism to Lead-Out the gravitational or magnetic energy. 
             Work done or energy acquired = Force x Displacement
4.   Time must be allowed for the Pulse Force to act through the Displacement.

Bedini did not have the Lead-Out theory to guide him.  He just experimented by trial and error.  He probably found that a large wheel seemed to do better.  But his Pulsing Mechanism blindly provided additional energy at higher rotational speed.  That violated step  4.  His followers stupidly boasted that they could achieve very high rpm.  They were actually destroying the Lead-Out Energy mechanism.

In theory, he might have achieved overunity at some set up.  His particular load might just slow the rotation to a correct pulsing frequency.  However, slight changes would have shifted that from the Lead-Out Energy condition.

We understand the Lead-Out theory and the Lead-Out Control Mechanism now.  We can play with the HK$10 proximity switch, the number of Drive and Connector Coils and the Load to achieve Overunity under different conditions now.  Thus we can guarantee that our Educational Product will demonstrate Overunity.

We hope, with additional help, we can control the runaway loopback problem.  Once that is achieved, we can demonstrate the 5KW electricity generator.  We hope the Divine One will give His Blessing one more time.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.