The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

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Meeting Minutes (2)

At the restaurant, the first thing we did was to walk over to the photo and newspaper cutting describing the Dec 20, 2004 Press Conference that was held at that restaurant.  There was already a change of ownership.  The actual pump setup was dismantled but the photographs were still available.  The theoretical diagram is in reply 640.

At the restaurant, while we were waiting for food, I described the demonstration of the beach pump (shown).  Mr. Fung got the concept immediately.  He said: ?If I used the beach pump as a water pump, the water column pressure will prevent me from pumping the water to a great height.  However, if I pump water+air, the effective density is much less.  Thus pumping to much greater height is possible.?

Tseung said: ?If you perform the actual experiment, you will find that you can deliver water to a height higher than the energy supplied by the air pump.  In a steady state, the water coming in must be equal to the water coming out.  The energy of water at the higher level is simply xgh where x is the mass delivered per unit time (E1).  We can compare this with the power of the pump (energy per unit time E2).  If E1 is greater than E2, it will be absolute evidence that extra energy has come into the system.  That energy is energy carried in by air.  We can indeed use this carried in energy.?

Fung: ?I can see that there must be correct spacing of the one-way valves and the timing of their open and shut.  Different diameter pipes, different heights and different rates may need different tuning and setting.?

Tseung laughed: ?An engineer is an engineer.  That is why we need experimental data.  I can give you a beach pump and all its data as a present.  However, I am not giving you the details of the working system.  We are negotiating a huge contract based on the working system.?

In the beach pump demonstration, the one-way valves came from the USD1.00 beach pumps.  The shop was very happy when I bought over 100 of them.

(to be continued)

[ltseung888]

Meeting Minutes (3)

Mr. Fung paid for lunch.  (Not a bad deal for me.  A USD1.00 beach pump for a good lunch.)  We walked back to my apartment.

I embarked on my explanation of the ideal Lee-Tseung Pull with the spreadsheet described on reply 758.

Tseung: ?The first Pull is a horizontal pull to the LHS.  A 1-unit force cannot lift a 10-unit weight.  But we can use a 1-unit force to swing the pendulum.  The pendulum will increase in height.?

Fung: ?I absolutely agree.  I have pushed the swing many times before.?

Tseung: ?In Physics, Work = force x displacement (vector mathematics).  A horizontal force cannot do vertical work unless its direction has been changed by some kind of machine.?

Fung: ?Agreed.  This is standard Mechanics 101 stuff.?

Tseung: ?If the horizontal Lee-Tseung First Pull does not do vertical work on the pendulum, we have to look at which force is responsible for lifting the pendulum bob.?

Fung: ?There are only three forces as far as I can see.  They are the horizontal force F1p; the weight of the pendulum bob F1g and the tension of the string F1s.  If we consider the weight being lifted, the obvious responsible force is the tension F1s.?

Tseung: ?Do you agree that there has been work done by the tension of the string? Work done vertically = vertical component of the tension F1s * vertical Displacement.
This vertical work cannot be done by the horizontal force F1p.?

Fung: ?Mathematically, you are correct.?

Tseung: ?Since the vertical work cannot be done by the horizontal force, it is logical to attribute it to the tension of the string.  Where does the tension of the string come from?  One important component is gravity that is vertical. In the Lee-Tseung theory, this is the Lead Out Energy.?

Fung: ?I see your reasoning now.  In the first pull, the horizontal force cannot do vertical work to lift the pendulum bob.  The work (and hence energy) must come from somewhere.  This somewhere is gravity.  Mathematically, you are correct.  However, my professors never taught me that!?

Tseung: ?That is why we applied for patents.  That is why we were invited to lecture at Tsing Hua University ? The MIT of China.?

Fung: ?Please pause for a moment.  Let me double-check your spreadsheet.?

(to be continued)

[Eddy Currentz]

Perhaps a bit dramatised the way you put it Eddy,

Jim Watson did demonstrate his larger machine in the 1984 exhibition for 10 minutes after which he stopped the machine "for practical reasons". (Incidentally he build only two, the two machines you showed us the photos of.)

He did not disappear shortly after the exhibition. It was not until two years later when he dropped out of the alternative energy scene. For what reason is unknown.

There is no evidence of any kind that something untoward happened to him.

The plans for his generator are on public display on Bedini's website. Anyone can build one, many have tried and many have failed as is the case with much of the stuff coming from Bedini and Bearden.

Hans von Lieven

OK, but that's not the story I got from John. I never said something untoward happened to Watson. According to John, Watson got bought off and was told to disappear. John was rightfully upset since Watson made a pile of money off of his invention and John didn't get a dime. 
Do you think Watson got bought off for a technology that didn't work? Or is this all just more lies to cover up a failed technology?
BTW, I've built several Bedini motors that worked every bit as good as he said they would. Most people don't know how to follow directions and then whine about their motors not working. Bedini knows what he's doing. 

[ltseung888]

Meeting Minutes (4)

Mr. Fung was examining the Spreadsheet in reply 758 carefully.

(1)   On Cell H3, the Vertical and Horizontal Displacement Calculations, ?These are exact mathematical quantities.  No approximations are used.?

(2)   In the Lee-Tseung Ideal Pull Diagram (Cell A14 to E 46), ?The Forces are exact relationships.  F1p = Msin(a).  F1s=Mcos(a).  No approximations are used.?

(3)   ?You start with exact mathematical expressions and equations; there cannot be anything wrong or misrepresentations.

(4)   The breakdown of Input Work or Energy = That done by F1p is correct.  It can be resolved into Vertical Work + Horizontal Work.  That is standard Vector Mathematics.

(5)   You are assuming the Lead Out energy = the Vertical Work done by F1s.  This is your assumption.  Since it is an assumption, we need experiments to verify it.

(6)   The rest are strict mathematical calculations.

Thus if I accept that the Vertical Work done by F1s is the Lead Out Energy, the spreadsheet has no mathematical errors.  In the First Ideal Lee-Tseung horizontal pull, assumption (5) is definitely correct. (Horizontal Force cannot contribute to Vertical work without machines to change its direction.)?

Tseung: ?Mathematics cannot lie.  If I have not done any miscalculations, the spreadsheet results are believable. Do you agree??

Fung: ?I agree.  I shall take a copy of the spreadsheet to examine more and discuss with my trusted professors and friends who are good at mathematics.?

(to be continued)

[Pirate88179]

Lawrence:

Did Fung get to meet Forever?

Bill