The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[hansvonlieven]

I haven't done this experiment, but I can see an advantage in the one way valves. They would prevent the weight of the entire column of water from being supported by the pump. Each valve, while closed, would transfer the weight of any water above it to the pipe.
The air being pumped into the line could provide a delay in the pressure wave from the pump, thereby only opening one or two valves instead of the whole lot. This would allow much easier pumping since the weight of the whole column wouldn't have to be lifted with each pump stroke.
The jury is still out on this one as far as I'm concerned.

Think about it Eddy, any air being pumped through must lift ALL the one way valves AND whatever is sitting on top of them in order to pass.

Every bit of mass that sits on one way valves increases the back pressure of the whole system.

Hans von Lieven

[Koen1]

Exactly, Hans.
Pressure upward must be higher than the pressure downward to have anything flow up through the valves. Doesn't matter if it's water or air.
And since the air is allowed to exit the flow at the top, the top should only contain water. One volume of water is heavier than the same volume of water+air, so one would expect the top most water volume (piece of tubing above the last valve) to exert more pressure downward than the upward pressure exerted by the lighter water+air mix, due to its higher mass, and due to the fact that we only use just enough energy to pump the water+air mix up, which should be significantly less than the energy needed to pump an equal amount of water to an equal height.
But apparently that all works differently in China. Special Chinese water, I guess.

@Tseung/Richard/Forever/Chan/Todd/Sun/Wang/-insert random name for one of Tseungs schitzoid personalities here- :
You continue to spew useless text. Take this for example:

This type of Electricity Generators using permanent magnets have already been assembled and tested successfully in Beijing. The China New Energy Source Company will demonstrate a 10,000 kilowatt and a 100,000 kilowatt electricity generator in 2008

All nice, but there's nothing new about simply using permanent magnets in electrical generators. That is the way almost all generators work: motion is induced, usually in the form of rotation, and a conductor is moved through a magnetic field, to induce a current in the conductor. Since using electromagnets is not a viable option due to losses, permanent magnets are used.  So the fact that a Chinese company is going to produce generators with permanent magnets in them doesn't mean a thing.
Also the fact that these generators are supposed to produce 10 to 100 kW is not special. It might be if the input were like 10% of the output, but nothing like that is claimed. If I use a fossil fuel engine that drives my rotor shaft with enough energy, and I use permanent magnets in my generator that are really strong, then I could get 10 to 100 kW out of a generator as well. But that still doesn't mean I'm not inputting the energy to make the generator run. And that's neglecting the fact that most really strong "new" rare earth magnets lose their structural integrity to a degree over periods of time and depending on the magnetostatic friction they encounter, which would obviously decrease output over time.
So very nice but doesn't mean squat.

Now I ask once again, since you seem to be selectively blind, explain how you propose to extract electrical energy directly from gravity?
Why do you insist on posting one personal discussion with probably non-existant people after the other, but refuse to clearly answer direct questions and provide any form of proof? Nobody wants to hear you continue your one-sided ranting, and we do want to see some proof. Do I have to spell it out for you? Is logic in China so askew that you can't see what we're asking for? Or is your brain so rusty that you're stuck in your personal obsession of posting unwanted discussions and cannot grasp the idea that people want detailed proof instead of personal anecdotes of your misguided gettogethers with your other personalities?
Now you've manouvered yourself into a corner so much that you even feel the need to start attacking Chris and Hans...
They do have altzheimer medication in China? Or maybe there's too much lead in it eh?

[ltseung888]

Dear Koen1,

Please be patient.  I shall answer one thing at a time.  We are still on the topic of water+air.

I got diverted to the Productivity Conference by Wang Shum Ho.  His device has the special magic of not needing any input whatsoever.  If we use the formula COP= (Output Energy) / (Input Energy) and Input Energy is zero, the COP is infinite.

Details on the Wang device is in http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/wang3a.htm

Lawrence Tseung
There is no hurry as the Wang Machine is up and running.  It must go through a six month no-failure period before allowed to market.

[chrisC]

Exactly, Hans.
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Now I ask once again, since you seem to be selectively blind, explain how you propose to extract electrical energy directly from gravity?
Why do you insist on posting one personal discussion with probably non-existant people after the other, but refuse to clearly answer direct questions and provide any form of proof? Nobody wants to hear you continue your one-sided ranting, and we do want to see some proof. Do I have to spell it out for you? Is logic in China so askew that you can't see what we're asking for? Or is your brain so rusty that you're stuck in your personal obsession of posting unwanted discussions and cannot grasp the idea that people want detailed proof instead of personal anecdotes of your misguided gettogethers with your other personalities?
Now you've manouvered yourself into a corner so much that you even feel the need to start attacking Chris and Hans...
They do have altzheimer medication in China? Or maybe there's too much lead in it eh?

Koen1:

I think we're wasting our time on this crap head. Maybe if you, Hans and myself and others don't reply to his threads, there will only be old Tseung and his multiple personalities talking to each other? Strange things go on in a schizo.'s mind! Very very eerie.

cheers
chrisC

[ltseung888]

I haven't done this experiment, but I can see an advantage in the one-way valves. They would prevent the weight of the entire column of water from being supported by the pump. Each valve, while closed, would transfer the weight of any water above it to the pipe. 

The air being pumped into the line could provide a delay in the pressure wave from the pump, thereby only opening one or two valves instead of the whole lot. This would allow much easier pumping since the weight of the whole column wouldn't have to be lifted with each pump stroke.

The jury is still out on this one as far as I'm concerned.

Dear Eddy Currentz,

Your posting and understanding of the one-way valves is closest to the mark.

I have the Beach Pumps and the plastic box ready for Ms. Forever Yuen.  She still needs to buy the tubes, T-junctions etc. from the Hardware store.

I hope Nightlife can purchase the same pumps in USA or whatever his location.

The beach pumps has increased in price from USD1:00 to USD2:00.  My USD10 bet with Hans is costing me more than USD10.  Well, with RMB100 million coming to the 扶è‹â€"創æâ€"°åŸºé‡‘æÅ"Æ', I should not worry too much.