Over Unity NOT Achieved!!!

[oouthere]

Hi Hartiberlin,

The resistance change with heat is why I did not even try a cold resistance test.  I'm really not even interested in any more tests as this is obvious to me as stated earlier.  I want to run the hp vs power test to prove conclusively that all of these readings are inaccurate and we are on a wild goose chase. 

IMO, the world is in dire straights and if people continue to place limited resources into worthless research areas it needs to be stopped.  I believe the others that have worked on the RV did it in an altruistic manner but we need to cut our losses.  I personally believe the self running lawn mower does not exist.  He put a short post up stating he no longer has it looped with insinuations of "his people" being threatened.  I think that was nothing more than him trying to save face when people started asking for details and put his feet to the fire. I can't answer them or they'll hurt my family...yeah, right.  It's time to separate the BS and move forward.

Rich

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Rich, i feel its better if you stick to circuits you can replicate, the compilations are full of them i just posted a recent on from Gene.

In answer to your yahoo group post,

Norman wootan has reported success (OU)
Plus Daviud Kou's Neon switcher.

I would try the Neon  man, i just updated the compilation with new circuits and ideas all look good in the simulation.

Will post them in the updated thread when done

[oouthere]

  Hi ashtweth,

  imo, the proof is in the pudding.  The test is simple enough and not one replication....place a 1kw generator head on a 7.5hp motor.  Irregardless of the effeciency of the 1kw head, it it driven commercially by a 2hp motor.  If the RV is supposed to be so efficient then a direct loop back using an invertor will work without any other circuitry.  I, originally having faith in the RV bought a 1,200 watt generator but the head is part of the combustion motor.

  From by understanding and experiments it seems the looped back mode of Hector's is more in line with a highly efficient Bedini type battery charger (high voltage spikes) and not from excess power.  Even the florescent light bulbs are easily explainable.  You have a small amount of true current producing potential coupled with a high voltage none current producing potential and it excites the bulbs....rather like a potential coming from a radar with no current that is used to light bulbs when dealing with "green" avionics troops.

  The prony brake test is not done as my wife is not well and things are rather hectic at this time.  If Norman has truly produced ou does he not have a looped-back design?  I'm personally inclined to think not.  My guess is the DC servo motor was not a full sine wave and perhaps more of a pulse type motor and that's why no others have been able to replicate his work.  The pulse motor could have indicated a higher voltage but the output wave form could have been as low as 10% of a complete sine wave thus the average power being considerably lower.  I could very well be wrong but this would explain it reasonably to me.

  It sounds like I am negative but if someone proves me wrong with a simple off the shelf STOCK generator head being run from an invertor I'll build one in short time.  IMO, the only way we are going to prove the free energy cover-up is by a simple self runner being demonstrated openly.  My intention was to have a self running RV at two of the local fairs but I no longer see this happening.  I believe this would be enough to make people furious when they realize we have been slaves to the energy industry for over 100 years due to nothing more than greed.  Petitioning congress will do no good as Dr. Steven Greer has already stood before them.  Congress already knows free energy exists and they are part of the problem.  Unless we have a self runner being demonstrated across the world we will never be free of the clutches of greed and lies.  The devices will have to be simple to build, like the RV but with true power output like the SM power ring. 

The power ring uses radiant energy (I suppose) and none of his powered devices are effected by the higher 5k hz frequency....the light bulbs love it!  To me, this is the biggest evidence of the RV simply being as I stated above....20% (in my case) of the potential is current producing and the rest is simply non-current producing potential combining to make a full sine wave. 

Anyway, all will have my full apologies if/when I'm disproven.

Rich

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi Rich,

No need to waste your energy on negativity, you should apply it to LEARN more about the RV.

Kones prony can only produce OU under certain [mechanical]Tunning conditions,  when you load it (the RV shaft) and its not tunned as kone did with the prony's conditions (like a pulse) then it will go out of OU.

its not as easy as plug in and go, this is evident in the compilations we explain this in allot of detail. U can try Norms test with a Freq drive instead, conditions are not as easy for Norm, and human nature isn't always as simple, Norman has had his fair share of trouble with the MRA also.

no your understanding with the Bedini SG hybrid is not consistent, i suggest you READ the compilations carefully and re evaluate the teachings.I would not comment on the radiant energy bulbs until after you try them as describe in the compilation.

I suggest you try the circuits posted in the RV compilations, do not worry as i stated in my former post about Hectors, if you try your own ideas and expect them to work we can only offer advice. Dont forget you got your hopes up with out thoroughly researching what you were doing [measurement], please do not blame the Rv for your wrong interpretation of the measurements and the circuits suggested for the RV, its not productive science Rich.

We say you prove it doesn't work, do our experiments  , im not sure what schematic you tried it cannot of been one of ours thats all i can say .

Im sorry you feel that way, i suggest you learn more and follow my advice.

[oouthere]

Well, I made a video but it's a little to rednecky 

I'll make another one when I'm not so tired and you'll see why I've come to my conclusions and chances are you will as well.

After looking at Kones prony brake info, he stated he did not retune during the different loads.  Also, his hp rating is considerably less than what is stated in the typical RV documentation so the series winding effect is typical power consumption imo.  I still have yet to do the prony brake test but time is at a premium.

Looking at my above post it would appear I do not understand the difference in an a/c sine wave and a dc signal.  I just wrote it wrong....meaning not a sine wave but only a pulsed dc signal and not a full/uninterrupted signal in reference to the dc servo motor generator.

Rich