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Bob Boyce TPU thread

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2007, 12:03:41 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#140
September 25, 2007, 11:40:07 PM
@ All

Please download the newest, latest version of the Bob Boyce Toroid System, >.PDF V.1.5

This can now be downloaded from page one of this thread, at the bottom of the last photograph on the build page.

A couple of new chapters, photos and many more of Bob's comments and teaching, can be found in this version, as well as a few other things.  Enjoy!

@ Bob,

Thank you very much for the heads up about the winding.  I am already surpassed where my winding was, and now have the confidence that it is correct, this time.  I have also applied spacers to my two newly wound primaries, as we did to the secondary, which I did not realize was needed, until your post.  So, thank you again!

High regards to all,   ;D
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Thaelin

#141
September 26, 2007, 01:26:01 AM
nevermind.

thaelin

MarkSnoswell

#142
September 26, 2007, 09:21:16 AM
@bob @all

Well this is interesting... I have a whole set of resonances in the 1 - 12Hz range!!!

Let me back up here a bit first. This is using the Ferroxcube core I am testing but I think the results are highly relevant to everyone -- so I am posting a prelimenary note here. All these tests are with open ended drives and high impedance loads -- so I am talking about potential resonances and not magnetic or magnetoacoustic resonances. You cant drive any significant load from these resonance modes (in the configuration I am testing).

In addition to the 1.8 MHz resonance I posted on earlier I have a fundamental resonance in the 60 - 90Khz range (it varies depending on exact configuration). I was scanning over the full frequency range with both square and sine wave drive when I stumbled onto the resonances in the VLF range. The VLF drive was stimulating the 80KHz resonant mode -- directly and as complex beats. This amazed me untill I went back to the main resonance in the 80KHz range and plotted it's dependance on drive ampllitude -- the 80KHz resonant frequency is strongly dependant on drive amplitude. (2KHz variation from 300mv - 2400mv PP drive).

I wont give details of the configuration just now as thats not important and I have a lot more testing to do first -- the important thing to note is that with a stong dependance on drive amplitude we have another non linear system... which can be modulated by (or couple to) VLF signals.
It also means that there will be non-linear modulation (hetrodyning) of multiple input freequencies based on amplitude alone.

So: I have now seen a mechanism for both magnetoacoustic and potential non-linear signal modulation.

... which means that the system is a lot more complicated than I would ever have imagined. We have two distinct mechanisms for non-linear signal modulation: E and B potential -- with two or three inputs the potential for feedback hetrodyning means that you could generate/tap into just about any frequency you want.

If that has lost you all then I'll leave you with one further message -- this tends to confirm my idea that you can modulate the output via the static bias. This would be the perfect way to generate power in sync with the mains.

Mark.
Dr Mark Snoswell.
President of the CGSociety www.cgsociety.org

Grumpy

#143
September 26, 2007, 05:42:41 PM
It all starts with the primary potential, which makes the fields.

This is all I'm working on now - potentials.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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eldarion

#144
September 28, 2007, 09:39:47 PM
Bob,

I have a few more questions for you, if you don't mind ;)

1.) Have you ever observed a cooling effect in the coil or does it always run hot?  I was wondering if the coil may actually be utilizing some thermal energy from the environment...just a shot in the dark.
2.) Is it OK to put a capacitor across each of the primaries when driven in single-ended mode, in order to "force" a resonance at a lower frequency?  Or will this not work with the longitudinal energy?  Just wondering, as I found that the primary coil resonance is very weak with the small capacitance in my test coils.
3.) I noticed that someone deleted the posts on OUPower.com related to the TPU.  I personally found those very helpful as a way to realign my thinking every time I go off on a "conventional electronics" thought path.  Is there any way you might be able to re-post them here?  They also seemed to sum up the basics of the energy converter nicely.

Thank you! :)

Eldarion
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