Tesla + Meyer + water

[wizkycho]

mikestocks2006  I NEVER measure more than few kiloohm resistance.  It is impossible to keep very clean the water, and ay waste dramatically increases ionic conductivity.   But Meyer said, it works with normal tap water and saltwater.

Or the resonance maybe changes the conductivity of the cell?  I don't know.

There is a video on NORMAL electrolisis, 12V 10A with normal tap water, and 1,5mm gap.  few ohms..
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/horvath/MVI_3287.AVI


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I have an idea for bingofuel.  using carbon rods to generate gas is difficult, and not efficient.   A fine dust of carbon "emulsion"  on the water should be used.  And some arcing under the water  needed.  Maybe it generates more gas, and you don t need carbon rods, only some piece of carbon.  I think its less difficult to drive a car.

And it is not a bad idea. Exhaust gasses from car are full of unburnt carbon even in modern cars and modern fuels because at slightly higher rpms fuel doesn't have enough time to burn entirelly. Look what Mr. Pantone does - He retrofits exhaust and "wash" it in watter. There is your fine dust or carbon emulsion. And here is another idea: If we put electrolisers in that water will get H2 O2 and even burnt fuel as CO and CO2 is going to recombine to CH4 or methane + steam ...
I'm going in that direction.

[raburgeson]

Yes, I think it was .005 amp and critical because and arc destroys the resonance. In a video I watched He started the circuit around 5KV and adjusted it up to about 22KV and the meters showed (abit later) about 25KV and 0 amps from the angle viewed. I simply paused it and read it. The patent description was tens of thousands of volts so I figured build the circuit for 40KV for experimenting. Without arcing there is no reason to fear explosion, and I don't think this circuit is capible of instant disasociation of the water, so I'm not afraid of instantly generating tons of instant pressure either. Getting enough volume to call it really generating fuel would get me skipping.
The water doesn't give any capacitance except at a perfect frequency then you get a capacitive reactance it's  a sort of band pass filter blocking a frequency we want to find. The square waves generate harmonics, will make the job easier. Good luck to all of us.

Tesla's circuits are good to use for this, they are low current. Set your first few tries outside and don't try to contain the gas at first. Some people have claimed disassociation, that is instant conversion of water to gas. I would prefer to find a way to do this because a cup of water could raise the pressure of a large tank of air to over a thousand pounds instantly. That hooked to a turbine or air driven motor would be useful, not good for the road but useful. I don't believe we have anything to fear, I don't think anyone will be able to disassociate using Meyer's princables.

[wizkycho]

raburgeson !

can you please send a link to that movie ?

thx

[raburgeson]

http://www.lonelantern.org/collection.html

Go though google so it gets cached! Cause it may disappear.

complete look at pulse generator meyers used, capable of 5.45mghtz, just because others were working up to 48.2 khtz might not mean much. letting you know going in we might not know as much as we think. Might take some work to find the frequency. We are hunting for the resonant frequency of the water molecules, not the capacitance.

[mikestocks2006]

Interesting about Stanley Meyer

Not much info on the net besides some obscure mention on s UK news publication.

"Since this concept violates the first law of thermodynamics and this apparatus has never been demonstrated to work or reproduced, it was met with much skepticism and was later found to be a hoax. The purpose of the hoax was likely to attract gullible investors, selling them licensing rights for a "revolutionary" technology. The inventor, Mr. Stanley Meyer (died March 21, 1998), was later successfully sued by some of these disgruntled investors, whom he had sold "dealerships", and convicted for "gross and egregious fraud". "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/8ee0acb80e943e21?hl=endc310437cd1cee1e7&