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Overunity Machines Forum



Virtual Alternator Rotor (VAR) Project

Started by wattsup, August 04, 2007, 08:22:17 PM

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yandros

wattsup,

I hate to rain on your parade but it sounds to me as if you are just turning a standard alternator into a transformer. I am no expert on electric motors but I am quite certain that you need strong magnetic fields to create large currents. If your solenoids only create weak fields then your output will be a fraction of the maximum output.

I don't see where you expect to gain free energy with this setup...

wattsup

@IronHead

Thanks for the comment.

@i_ron

The idea is to keep to the original structure that is a known working system. The guys that make these alternators have already spent the years required to optimize to the current design. You have 5 south coils that are 60 degrees apart and 5 north coils that are 60 degrees apart. The south coils are turned 30 degrees off the north coils.

Replicating the exact rotor motion will cut R&D time by not having to try so many other potential coil set-ups and stick with what already works. Also, the rotor design was established to marry well with the stator design. If the first set-up works, we can always try others later.

@yandros

You woud need a strong magnetic field if there is no rotation like a transformer. But the original rotor even when applied straight 12vdc onto it does not produce an excessively strong magnetic field because of the limited coil length and armature mass. It does not have to be too strong because it is rotating inside the stator. We just want to rotate the field instead of the rotor. Anyways, time will tell.

Dingus Mungus

Might be related, might not...
I think we're both trying to do the same thing but in different ways.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2771.msg43176.html#msg43176

~Dingus Mungus

wattsup

In my efforts to see if this project can be done with the least R & D possible using existing components, I'm think of the following alternatives.

Choice #1: I have a 1/2 hp 24 vdc DC PM motors laying around with good size rotor. The rotor already has its present windings and I remember there were a good number of them, I think 24. So why not simply pulse the windings in sequence and place the rotor inside the alternator strator. This will save me lots of R&D time instead of making my 30 coils right away and it will give me the opportunity to do some tests before I decide final methods.

Choice #2: The other option I am thinking is using a large step motor stator fitted inside the alternator stator and run the step motor stator with its regular drive module that already has controllability.

Also..........

I have also thought long about having a control panel that I will probably try to commission locally. This control panel will enable me to test and run the VAR as well as any other type of testing combo's I can possibly think of. I think it will be a good development tool. Maybe somewhat expensive but if I was to have to design a pulsing circuit every time I tried combos, I'd be wasting more time. So here's my idea for the control panel.

I call it a Multi-Pulser that simply has 40 terminals that can go on and off at specified times and intervals. The terminals do not provide any current or frequencies. They are as non-obtrusive as possible to the tested circuit, thus do not impede EMF and BEMF actions that can be initiated and redirected any where else on the circuit.

Why is the pulsing lenght in degrees and not in mS. Well at the base/base it will always be in mS but in the creative process, pulsing coils around a rotor or stator happens in degrees and for me, this can also be easier visualized in linear circuits. I feel mS adjustment or calculations in trying to make a living circuit is counter intuitive and can be better expressed in degrees.

I am so tired of not being able to put all my creations to life in the manner that I would like them to work because of my lack of EE savvy, that this device will expand my potential.

I also feel the advent of such a device in the hands of hundreds of testers should push the art of OU forward much faster since non EE'ers could use it. There could be other versions with less terminals and other functions but the main idea is here.

Maybe I should open a new thread on this idea.

Thanks.

Schpankme

Quote from: wattsup on August 17, 2007, 09:28:54 AM... VAR ...

Maybe I should open a new thread on this idea.


Hello wattsup,

What ever became of your VAR Project ?

- Schpankme