Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...

[rMuD]

Sandia National Labs Water-Dielectric Breakdown Data

here is some math that could help  http://www.waterfuelconverters.com/SandiaNationalLabsData.html

[TheCell]

@tao
There must be a second wire in order to get amp flow.
Without this nothing would happen.

The current in Meyers circuit is an alternating current , with a dc offset, so through the whole cycle the current will flow only in one direction, alternating between a minimum and a maximum level.

If there are only inductive and capacitive components , the energy flow will switch between the source and the target.

[demartin]

Good thread, I realize after a process of elimination that this is the key.

Here is a good article about Avramenko's Plug with technical details and equations:

Ã,  Ã,  http://www.cazv.cz/2003/2002/tech1_02/Strebkov.pdf

From the article:

"SWEPS [single-wire electric power system] has no resistance losses for following tested conductor materials of the line: copper, aluminum, steel, tungsten, carbon, water, damp soil."

You see why Meyer used 11.6 kOhm steel wire coils?

Also, for those who missed it being pointed out elsewhere, the alternator circuit in D14.pdf has the cells hooked up semi-Avramenko style. If the cells were connected to only one of three alternator windings, it would be total-Avramenko setup. The other circuits in that PDF don't have the Avramenko advantage, as far as I can tell.

[Haliburton]

TAO ,  I am not the smartest person in the forum but i do disagree with you when you say that HHO is not overunity.  I mean i guess its just what your definition of overunity is really.  It does not really matter what you build or how you build it because no matter what, everything in the end will run out of what is powering it.  Magnet motors will only last four several hundred years for example.  Pretty much anything in the universe will run out of power sooner or later, even if its for a day or 10 billion years.  Over 70 percent of the earth is covered in water.  1 litter of water has over 1,000 litters of usable fuel,  if thats not overunity i dont know what is    

[zerotensor]

Here is a good article about Avramenko's Plug with technical details and equations:
http://www.cazv.cz/2003/2002/tech1_02/Strebkov.pdf

Here's an excerpt from the article which seems to be relevant:

{quote}
If a water layer is included as part of the loaded single-wire line and a spark-gap is created between the conductor and the surface of water, the cold plasma discharge between conductor and water is initiated. This cold plasma discharge does not change the temperature of water and does not evaporate water during 30 minutes of operation of line.
{/quote}

So it occurs to me that if this "cold plasma" type discharge is what we are after, then placing the water capacitor in series with the single-wire transmission line would be a strategy to pursue.  What I mean is, the water capacitor could be made to function as part of the transmission line, in between the transmitter and the tuned receiver.  Excess energy accumulated at the receiving end could be recycled and used to power the transmitter.  Hopefully, the "cold discharge" is capable of producing some gas!