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'T.O.M.I. Flapper' applied to a S.M.O.T., Self-Runner...

Started by tao, August 08, 2007, 04:02:48 PM

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Omnibus

@tao,

Thanks a lot for the beautiful rendition. If this works SMOT will have a direct practical application not just an undeniable demo for the reality of overunity. To make it work, though, it would need a lot of tuning up. The problem, as I see it, is that not only the excess energy is probably comparable to the losses but it isn't obtained in the form it can be used--for instance, the ball exits the ramp almost horizontally bumping into the frame in a direction which doesn't favor the rotation of the frame. I hope, however, it would be within reach of a skillful experimenter. Once again, that is a really interesting construction. Too bad no records have been left of its realization by the inventor.

tao

Quote from: Omnibus on August 10, 2007, 09:38:28 AM
@tao,

Thanks a lot for the beautiful rendition. If this works SMOT will have a direct practical application not just an undeniable demo for the reality of overunity. To make it work, though, it would need a lot of tuning up. The problem, as I see it, is that not only the excess energy is probably comparable to the losses but it isn't obtained in the form it can be used--for instance, the ball exits the ramp almost horizontally bumping into the frame in a direction which doesn't favor the rotation of the frame. I hope, however, it would be within reach of a skillful experimenter. Once again, that is a really interesting construction. Too bad no records have been left of its realization by the inventor.


I do have the descriptions from Patrick Harris himself, concerning his TOMI FLAPPER.

Please note that my animation is just that, an animation showing the basic principle. The ramp would have to have a decent incline angle (the reason I have the ramp almost horizontal is because it was easier to animate) to it and be a good length. It would then be possible via the pendulum to get the ball back to the starting point. There are a lot of variables, for sure.

Omnibus

Quote from: tao on August 10, 2007, 09:46:00 AM
I do have the descriptions from Patrick Harris himself, concerning his TOMI FLAPPER.
Won't you be interested in replicating it? Seems like a very interesting project.

tao

Quote from: Omnibus on August 10, 2007, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: tao on August 10, 2007, 09:46:00 AM
I do have the descriptions from Patrick Harris himself, concerning his TOMI FLAPPER.
Won't you be interested in replicating it? Seems like a very interesting project.

I have been interested in replicating it since I saw Harris's information on it all, leading me to believe almost without a doubt that he did have a continuously running FLAPPER. His of course used the TOMI technology though. The initial drawbacks for me at the time, some years back now, were money and time and mechanical construction skill.


Omnibus

Do you have the exact blueprints and would you be willing to share them?