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Molina Martinez patent

Started by hartiberlin, August 12, 2007, 11:08:53 AM

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HopeForHumanity

Martinez,

I believe I just thought of something, lasers are the most directed photon system in the world, true?
Why not create nano lasers (prob expensive) to create these collisions, I do however think that because of the intense energy realease from the photons could damage the nano lasers, leading us to create stronger smaller material. I do believe it's a possible engineering feat. What do you think? ???
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Thedane

Alberto

Nice idea, but what about the photons momentum?
Photons have both energy and momentum proportional to their frequency. This momentum can be transferred when a photon  collides with matter. This should heat up the matter, making the walls quite hot.
Won't you loose more energy to heating the walls which isn't reflecting 100%, than the occational collision of two photons?



Alberto Molina M.


Thedane

You have a valid observation. However, we might be in front of a new phenomenon capable of yielding energy far beyond our own expectations. See what I say in the patent:

?[0020] According to these formulas visible photons range in energy from 1.77 eV (at 700 nanometers wavelength) to 3.1 eV (at 400 nanometers wavelength). The photons with the most energy known, the Gamma Ray photons, range in energy from 0.0413 MeV to 0.41 MeV (Mega-electron-volts), with wavelengths between 0.03nm and 0.003nm, respectively.   

[0021] How come then, a collision of two photons can yield an amount of energy in the order of 183 to 209 GeV (Giga-electron Volts) as measured with the ALEPH detector at CERN? These amounts of energy are easily millions of times the sum of two photon?s energy, as calculated before. Even for the most energetic photons, these amounts would be near 200,000 times the sum of two photon?s energy.

[0022] The apparent reason could be that the quoted formulas might only refer to the kinetic energy of the photon, not its constitutional energy, in the same way that the kinetic energy of 1 Kg. of sugar falling from an altitude of 10 meters, has nothing to do with its constitutional energy given by  E=mc?. Just to remember, the lack of mass of photons does not allow us to calculate their energy with Einstein?s formula.?


The energy needed to stimulate the creation of the photons is by very far smaller than the energy yield of their collisions. And those collisions will not be by any means occasional. The environment created within the Photonic Reactor will produce ?myriads of collisions? probably by the second.

There are materials today capable of reflecting 99.9% of light, for what at the end the loss of energy due to reflection might be irrelevant. This is at least my opinion.

What I would like to do, given the opportunity, is to build the generators and test these concepts experimentally.


HopeForHumanity

If these generators prove right at some point, for sure they could be built practically at any scale. As you may have noticed in my previous comment, I passed through the concept of focusing laser beams, but I discharged the concept because the photon density required to make the system work might not be achieved, due to loss of photons.


Alberto Molina-Martinez




hansvonlieven

G'day all,

This is in many ways an optical version of a Keely Disintegrator. A fascinating concept deserving further study.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

naampower

Welcome to this forums Mr. Martinez;

for sure there is many other ways to harvest energy unknown yet to man kind, our sources of energy are at the stage were we consider them to be primitive already and very limited.

Am glad in this planet there is still hope and people with courage enough to step forward; seeking way's to help solve the largest problem civilization have encounter.

We are already experiencing an energy crisis in this planet and this is only the beginning, we don?t need to be too smart to know how this is going to affect us and work as a chain reaction, affecting sources of food, transportation and the rest.

by the time we admit it and open our eyes, it will be too late, just global warming itself will take care of the big changes yet to be, and our so called civilization will be the witness of our own actions and lack of common cense.

I hope you are very successful on your research and others join your cause to help you so this new technology can be developed, and turn to be a very solid technology capable of improve our current and primitive methods to harvest energy.

Kind regards,



Naampower