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New video on site of possible OU test fixture

Started by Butch, August 14, 2007, 06:23:35 PM

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Honk

Quote from: Humbugger on August 17, 2007, 07:25:09 AM
Both videos come up no problem for me...how either proves a CoE violation is not self-explanatory to me, however.
All I get is that magnets pull on steel balls.  I already knew that. 

I would also like to read a good and simple explanation of the OU theory behind the CoE violation.
How could this setup ever provide excess energy?
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

acp

I am in full agreement. Is there some kind of full mathamatical description of where ou occurs? I don't mind working through some lengthy math if it explains or shows that excess energy is being produced.

Albert

Omnibus

I'm reluctant to discuss this already resolved issue. You may look around in this and other forums and find my arguments posted in various threads and explained in various ways. For instance, you may take look at this thread: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2733.30.html:

@bitRAKE,

Please read what I write and try to think before posting such nonsense:
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Well, when you stop pretending the magnetic field isn't there then we can have an honest discussion. You cannot turn on the magnetic field after the bearing is placed on the track. No where in your analysis do you cover the pre-rail magnetic field effect on the bearing.
Here is my analysis from which you should somehow try to understand that I am ignoring nothing.

The analysis of a ball going around a closed loop as in http://data.image.zabim.com/o-wa51V9glc9.jpg reveals the following:

Since the ball doesn?t return along B->A the ball does not lose only the energy portion, imparted to it by the researcher, (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) from the energy (+mgh1 +Mb) it has at B, that is, it?s not true that the ball returns at A with the energy

(+mgh1 +Mb) - (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) = +Ma (CoE obeyed)

As experiment shows, the ball returns along C->A, therefore, the ball loses in addition to (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) also the energy portion (+Mb ? 0) = mgh2 + [kinetic + ...] which the ball had stored at B but was realized at C. Therefore, the ball returns at A with the energy

(+mgh1 +Mb) - (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb) - Mb) = +Ma + Mb = +Ma +mgh2 + [kinetic ...+]

As a result, in SMOT, the initial +Ma is restored and in addition an excess of +mgh2 + [kinetic ...+] is produced which is in clear violation of CoE.


Honk

Magnet Power equals Clean Power