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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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supermuble

Back EMF spikes coming from the collapse of a coil can induce hydrogen bubbles via pure voltage potential.

It does not seem that the water resonance is important at all, even remotely, not even for a second. What seems important is that you get the charging circuit to work at resonance so the most amount of power goes into the water. You are just trying to block current with huge inductors and create huge voltage potential by using the inductive kick back (back EMF) from the sharp collapse of the huge inductors. When you create a huge voltage potential between two object, you allow the universe to break the molecules apart.

Two plates floating in free space become pushed apart with voltage potential. What is this force that pushes them apart?


L505

Quote from: supermuble on November 23, 2008, 11:31:33 PM
Clifford Stone said "Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence."

He is right.... For gosh sakes people, get yourself together and get this stuff working. Stop testing and start applying! Those with the money and the time need to spend less time developing theories and spend more time putting this stuff on vehicles. I have experimented with motors in every way that I can. I put a computer system on my vehicle and I have since raised the fuel economy. I didn't just read about it, I went and did it! I am not using hydrogen. I don't know how to do it. For those of you who do know how to do it, please get it on a vehicle!

The problem I see is that people on YouTube and such places are more focused on the construction of the cell, the way it looks, and how it is so cool that it produces bubbles. These people lack the theory and science as to how to get it working. People need to not spend more time "putting this stuff on vehicles".  They first need to define and figure out what the flying fudge this "resonance" really is, and if it is more than one kind of "resonance", then this knowledge  would really help.  Just getting a regular old electrolysis system "on a vehicle" is not productive, because anyone can do that, and anyone can even buy the kits already so they do not waste their time. You can already buy those regular electrolysis kits for cheap.

If you read up on Tesla, he new exactly what his invention did, in theory, and inside his head, before he EVER went to create a physical construction of the idea. He modeled all of his inventions first in his head, so to not waste time on a stupid physical implementation which may not work, and suck up his time.  He was even critical of Edison about this (claiming that Edison wasted too much time on physical implementations, and not enough time on getting it working inside the head first, as an animated visual thought). And that is exactly the mistake those YouTube type peopole make, where you see people constructing physical implementations of Stanley Meyer "replicas" which have absolutely nothing in common with Stanley Meyer's cell other than basically the metal tubes and the container.

Rocko

Quote from: L505 on November 23, 2008, 11:17:51 PM

Come on folks, try harder. Can't someone make a remote control miniature sized car before working on a full size dune buggy? It can scale up later. You can even buy miniature gas remote control cars which could be converted to hydrogen if Stanley Meyer's system really works. Get the remote control car working first, since it is easier and less risk.


Sorry but technology is past what your talking about . Alot of guys are able to run small 5hp generators with HOD system.
The problem is to produce enough to run a lager ICE like in a car/dunebuggy. Hell, my first HOD would run what your talking about.

I dont think you have any idea how much time is involved with where the progress is at right now. I beleive several people have figured how to do it and just get caught up in trying to patent their work or accept a large some of cash and sell the rights to the wrong people but this last part is just my opinion.

Take a look at how far the plasma spark technology has gotten this year alone. Thats only part of the puzzle but I believe its a big piece of it. But that technology alone can greatly improve the efficiency of the ICE.

It may take another year or 2 for this to go free source but im sure it will happen.

supermuble

L505, you are saying that people are stupid. We cannot visualize things like Tesla, so we continue to fail. Is that what you are saying?

Well, there are plenty of people who can build the HHO system in a manner similar to Meyer's. Well the problem is that these people ARE THE OPPOSITE OF EDISON.

Remember Edison and Tesla were extremists who both failed. Combine the two and you would have a hell of a world changer. We need to combine inventiveness with knowledge, and not have just ONE or the OTHER.

Chris31

I personally do think some people apply it too soon though. They make some bubble then rush outside and start installing it in their car, like they think it would magically run their car on water, of course it will end up in dissapointement.

What they need to understand first are the basics, like how much HHO is needed to get a small engine running, amount of power needed etc etc, then apply it on that small engine. Efficiency is the most important factor here, scalling up to run in a proper car is easy to do.

You got to walk first before you can run.