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Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

Started by wattsup, September 09, 2007, 12:42:30 PM

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ltseung888

Dear Ash et al,

I have completed my preliminary evaluation of the Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator.

The attached file (campbell1-5A.doc) focused only on that device.

Your comments are welcome.

Edited to address the comments from Hans.

Lawrence Tseung
Treating the Chas Campbell invention as a Pulse Motor Leads Out clarity of thought.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

hansvonlieven

G'day Lawrence and all


Quote:

Calculation based on Chas Campbell Flywheel         

Mass in Kg               12   
Radius in Meters            0.3   
Rate of revolution in RPM      1573   

Effective rolling velocity in meters/second of Cylinder v = 2*pi* r * RPM/60         
49.417368         

Stored Energy of Cylinder = 1/2 * m * v * v in Newton-meter (joule)         
14652.45756         

"Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied within x sec, power  in Newton-meter/second (watt)"         
4884.15252      if x =    3


Assume 745.7 watts = 1 horse power         
The Chas Campbell Flywheel Horse Power
6.5


Doesn't that say it all (bold and in red). The "Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied" bit is the bit I am referring to. Why would we make such assumption?

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ashtweth_nihilisti

Hi Mark Hans Lawrence and all,

Okay these docs are VERY helpful and useful as we have the lab model there, not a problem Mark and Lawrence, ill take some more instrumentation there, weight etc, we expect to get full university support with our water fuel cell replicaiton so i will have access to better equipment and can try those ratio's.

Its like you guys are a virtual R and D center already, all as we need now is the land mark and grants to put this stuff into play, i have know this for years, So does Stefan, he has created 7000 of you here.

main thing is your attitudes remain consistent and this is a great vibe to be around guys, keep up the good work. i give you my word panacea will get you an R and D center and avoid all this in the future.

?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

ashtweth_nihilisti

Quote from: rMuD on September 21, 2007, 10:38:11 AM
This device is a Mechanical Battery, long time proven that a flywheel can store mechanical energy for the use of running a generator with excess load, or loss of input power.. commonly used technology made by many manufacturers and in production use today

With this fact, I think you need to measure this device more like you are measuring the capacity of a battery

also I would try to get a motor and a generator that use the same rpm, and do a direct drive motor - centrifugal force clutch (go-kart) - Generator  so there is no mechanical loss in the pulleys

As far as the rotoverter goes, I would do some research on  "Rotary Transformers"   a device used to run 3-phase equipment on single phase power...  it's a 3-phase motor, that you use capacitors to help generate the 3rd leg.  Very similar to a rotoverter...  there is math out there for the capacitance needed for load, and efficiencies.. as well as info about what type of motor should be used..  primarily a non-energy efficient motor is best for this application because of damage to the motor under load

I had the math and a good schematic for a 30HP version to generate 25KVA worth of 3-phase 208 from  single phase 240.. but I can't find it now..  I have the rotary transformer built and works...  just not the schematics anymore :(

gotta run, out of town working this week



Hi rMuD

the RV is different as it tunning by pulse width and impedance matching via the re wiring/ Run cap and Freq, its not like the common add a phase this is stated in the compilations  ;).

?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

ltseung888

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 21, 2007, 11:49:25 PM
Quote

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"Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied within x sec, power  in Newton-meter/second (watt)"         
4884.15252      if x =    3


Assume 745.7 watts = 1 horse power         
The Chas Campbell Flywheel Horse Power
6.5
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Doesn't that say it all (bold and in red). The "Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied" bit is the bit I am referring to. Why would we make such assumption?

Hans von Lieven

Dear Hans,

Thank you for raising the concern or assumption of high energy drain or supply at high rotational rates.   I edited Campbell1-5A.doc to include the explanation.  You may need to re-download it.  Please keep doing raising your concerns because I do not know the level of expertise in this Open Forum.  Some points obvious to me and to the professors at top Universities may not be obvious to this general audience.

You have provided many good posts.  I do appreciate your contribution.  I even quoted your figure as Figure 8.1.

I shall quote the highlights that address the red text here:
Quote
*** Note:  The Lead-Out is best at high rotational speed.  The Lead-Out energy at low speed is very low.  Thus in the Liang motor, a separate starting motor is used to get the Cylinder to the designed speed of 4500 rpm.  (Experiments showed that without the Starting Motor, the IC pulses just could not start the rotation!) 

The Equilibrium Rotational Rate can be maintained with just a small percentage of ICs taking part in the Pulse.  For example, there are 800 IC pairs.  The number of IC interactions required to maintain equilibrium rotational speed at no external load may be 50.  (Another way of maintaining the equilibrium rotational speed may be to have 100 ICs Pulsing at half the previous rate). When the external load increases, the program can pulse up to an additional 750 pairs to increase the Pulse Force.  That could keep the cylinder to rotate at approximately the same speed or even higher.   

The Energy drained or supplied at such high rotational rates is very different from what is experienced in daily life.

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung
Energy Lead Out at high Pulse or Rotational Rates is very different from what we experience in our daily lives.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.