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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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Grumpy

One other thing:

In this U.E.C video, SM turns the 6" TPU in several directions and it keeps working, so it appears that he has eliminated the "flipping over" problem.

Each TPU has a thick section to it - like 3/4" to 1".  This is far thicker than required for just a single wrap around a core wire - even a thick one.


Hmm. Perhaps a "loose" coupling is required between the controls and the collector...
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bolt

Grumpy you posted over 600 messages yet i can only imagine you are covering the same stuff over and over. The 2 frequency theory has been discussed many times as 2 frequencies can easily make 3 but this is no mystery SM says in the vids turning on 1 then 2 which really makes 3 we know that for sure because its in his notes! He said use THREE frequencies.

The inversion has been covered too because the device becomes polarized when its not symmetrical. By moving the control down inside the coil instead of on top the polarization is lost. But i always wondered why so many thought this was some kind of a major problem even the "investors" mentioned this but what the heck do you worry about your car battery working upside down or not so the acid pours out? Mine works perfectly well up one way and thats all we need to know.

As for the gap yes we can all see that and should do the same. It may be required to reduce feedback or to produce a capacitance effect/ waveguide and is surprisingly one characteristic which has remained throughout the tpu range so it must be very important.


Grumpy

I was leading up to something, but screw it! 

(Polarized when not symmetrical - LOL!)

Since you have all the answers, where's your working TPU?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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bolt

Grumpy thats the first time i seen you laugh:)

wattsup

Just noticed this.

The ring is made of black 1/4" Plexiglass. That's why some of the ends are chipped. Also and as incredibly as it may seem, again at 38:38 you can see his right hand thumb through the Plexiglass when he tilts the bottom of the tpu towards the camera. That also explains why you could mistake an outer wire going around the TPU, which it does not. The outer edge is darker and the flat side is lighter because of the rings semi-transparent nature. That's also why it is so reflective when the two lamps are lit, you can see the bright reflections off the TPU.

It's funny, when I first started looking at this device, I saw a dark video with not much definition. But once you start looking and you start knowing what you are looking at, it starts making sense. You concentrate less on those points as they are now obvious and start looking for other angles.

More time will tell.

I also saw two white wires going to a third coil (on leg #3), but I have to look more closely. I will have to revise the drawing when I get more changes.

You have to be careful. The video can create illusions when looked at in pause mode. You have to advance or reverse frame by frame to make sure the object is on the TPU and not background crap, like his pants, the plug box, the small black object on the table, etc. In certain angles, you will see the collector #1 much fatter. Makes it look like it is wound over another coil, but it's not. Those collectors are well wound and they look tight. And I am beginning to see the collector wires are not regular round conductor wire. It resembles the ovalish telephone wires and may be more than 1 conductor. Now this is starting to make more sense.

If there are two conductors or more in the collector wires, you can use them as two fields turning. You can have them turn in opposite directions. Son of a gun, just like when he slaps his hands together to show the fields in continuous collisions.
They can even turn in the same direction but with a slight delay to create drag on the coils. I'm freaking out.

You can use one as feedback. There could be three wires in the collector wire.

Wire is important for sure. Both the collectors and coils are special wiring. Nothing standard.

@z_p_e

Maybe we should stick around here instead of spreading out too thin.

I don't remember talking about a vertical coil on the legs. Could you point me there.

@BEP

First off, I hope you were not thinking that I was pointing at you in particular in my last post. I was not and excuse me if it seemed so. I was pointing to everyone and anyone who is working on this device. Sorry again.

You know, every post I put down, I don't put down an average of 2 others. Words are words.

I would rather spend some time inspecting the hell out of this device before I make a build spec in order to reduce the variables to an ultimate minimum. If this can save others time and grief, then it is worth it.