TPU - General Discussion

[HopeForHumanity]

Computers heat up too, even to self destructive levels. I don't think it's very practical compared to other electronic devices.

Point being: Use the power from the tpu to power it's own cooling mechanism. Problem Solved.

[Mannix]

OOPS.... I was not aware of comment 32, which when taken with the fact that the TPU did not work in bath, make it seem highly likely that the TPU will not operate reliably for an extended period of time and therefore is not likely to be able to be used as a continuous power generation device.

If this problem cannot be overcome then the value of the TPU will be severely diminished when compared to other OU devices...

SM seems to imply that the vibration and gyroscopics effect are a necessary side effect of a properly working TPU, if this is the case this heat and vibration will indeed cause the material of the TPU coil to degrade over time and fail....

This is not a good development...

Really hope this can be overcome, though I have my doubts... otherwise a serious waste of effort by many, but probably enough learnt here for many to produce viable OU devices that do not rely on this particular destructive effect...

Does anyone know what the maximum running time for the various size TPU's were before catastrophic failure was likely to occur/did occur?

Acerzw, hoping this is a pessimistic post which is not true...

Yes.!..Really a  waste of time 4 you, no point if it cant run forever.Move on to something else that is complete, fully understood and with no unwanted side effects.

[acerzw]

@Mannix and HopeforHumanity

Bare with me on this, I do want the TPU to work, I have immense respect for you and the others from the early days. I know you don't want to hear this kind of thing with so much time on this under your belts, but consider....

Hope, realise that cooling will not resolve the problem regarding the coil material degenerating, the degeneration is caused in the material at a molecular level by the stresses of the field interactions in the coil, the heat is merely a byproduct of this molecular action, cooling the TPU will not reduce the molecular stress in the coil and thus will not stop its material degrading...

The are only two ways I can see stop the coil material degenerating, one is to make the coil from a more resilient material, which will likely dampen the effectiveness of the internal interactions, the effect the TPU relies on to operate, thus degrading or nullifying its operation completely...

The other possible, thought doubtful, way around this would be to stop the TPU periodically and run its load from excess output power, which if available had previously been stored in batteries. Once the tpu coil material has rested then restart the TPU... far from ideal however as you then need the batteries which negates the TPU's usefulness as a portable power unit...

SM stated that the objective of showing the TPU to investors, which was a big undertaking for him, was to get further development money, he knew the device as he had it was not viable due to the fact that it fails after prolonged use...

Also it occurs that the vibration and extreme stress on the coil makes the TPU essentially the same as if it was mechanical, it is solid state but has mechanical stresses as a necessary part of its operation. It therefore has some of the disadvantages of a mechanical device, in terms of possible failure modes, but also some unique ones of its own, i.e. resonant cascade failure.

That would explain why UEC has not developed it, no conspiracy, in its current form it has a fundamental flaw, it is not reliable, the base line for any viable product. Given the potential profits from a working reliable device in terms even of licensing, let alone full production, I suspect that they and others have thrown an unbelievable amount of financial and human resources at this problem but have not been able to overcome it as the effects are essential to the devices ability to give the level of power output it can, but cannot sustain...

Another reason for its non-development must also be due to these comments:

33. However, you must have an emergency KILL switch. A way of cutting off all the control frequencies simultaneity. This kill switch must be, manual and also connected through a heat sensor buried within the collector coil it should automatically stop the function of the unit before it self destructs on it's own. This is important for obvious reasons. Also the kill switch should also be connected to cut off whenever it measures over voltage.

23. Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.

These comments tend to indicate that even SM with his expertise and access to equipment which he says was way beyond what most commercial labs had, was unable to due to the complex field interactions (probably 3 coils & 3 collectors with both transverse and longitudinal fields some of which are rotating, heterodyning and resonating) to guarantee 100% that the control circuit would always stop the TPU from  suffering a catastrophic resonant cascade failure... hence his emphasis on the need for a kill switch.

Note, even Tom Bearden with his encyclopedic cutting edge theoretical knowledge, is unable himself to model the field interactions within the MEG theoretically, and the MEG's fields are most likely several orders of magnitude simpler than the TPU's.

However there is no guarantee that by the time the internal coil heat sensor SM mentions kicks in or the kill switch is operated that it is not to late for the TPU or potentially the user.

It should also be noted that even if the sensor and kill switch were effective there are also likely to be potential external triggers for a catastrophic resonant cascade failure in a TPU which are inherently unpredictable and likely cannot be effectively shielded against. For instance a strong magnetic field in the immediate local environment (fridge turning on? Mobile phone?) of the TPU or perhaps even a large fluctuation in the Earths EM field caused by, but not limited to, any of these:

   HAARP discharge
   Burst from a Coronal Mass Ejection Event on the sun (ever more frequent)
   Soviet Woodpecker grid activation
   (possibly the Northern Lights if the TPU was nearby?)

might initiate the cascade effect by influencing the internal fields directly or by resonant OU energy feedback, causing them to go outside the envelope of capability of the controller circuit to compensate...

I am heading towards the idea the the TPU is a great device for short term emergency power generation, but for the above reasons would make a lowsy long term power solution... due to its inherent reliability issues and dangerousness...

I am beginning to feel more sympathetic to SM's plight when I consider the above.. though the Governments interest (BTW where can I read SM's comments about this?) does show that they maybe thought these problems could be solved?

Or perhaps more likely they were worried that it might be mis-used with a bit of further development in an enhanced resonant cascade failure mode as a either an EMP grenade or worse a local scalar wave snap device, as described by Tom Bearden.

Acerzw.... do you see? 

[devilzangel]

Computers heat up too, even to self destructive levels. I don't think it's very practical compared to other electronic devices.

Point being: Use the power from the tpu to power it's own cooling mechanism. Problem Solved.

the heat in computers (precisely the CPU) is caused by the size of the electron channels within the cpu. Basically it is the actual resistance of the material making up the CPU that causes that heat. Not to mention the obvious fact that computers are basically a "brute" force method of flowing electrons, hence the resistance.This shortfall will however be bypassed when optical CPUs are made; then one wont have to worry about the electron resistance as much.

the TPU on the other hand is different since it doesnt help to put a heat sink or a nice big fan on it; mainly bc it isnt the resistance but the clashing of the frequencies at atomic levels.

until someone fully understands what makes this TPU technology, we cant bypass this heat byproduct. I am sure the military has figured this out by now; either that or they would need to have like 3 TPUs and switch between them for power generation, lol.

devilzangel
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[turbo]

and i wont mention the devices that must be used to experiment with here.

Lindsay

Ahh yes, the tubes
i almost forgot them 

I am currently exploring what changes at what frequency of the pulsed field.

M.