Low friction gravity wheel utilizing SMOT for pulse boost

[Pirate88179]

I know the opinion on this forum of gravity wheels and I do not disagree.  I have played with them for years and it seems there is no way to beat the system.  But, there is always a but, what if one combined the SMOT principle at exactly the right position utilizing the gravity to assist in passing the sticky spot.  Would this give enough of a pulse to close the loop?  The wheels I have built in the past come oh so close, but, no cigar. If indeed the SMOT is overunity as most seem to claim, then just a little help from this would make all of the difference.  I am procurring a 26" bicycle rim with bearings next week to begin to experiment.  What do you all think about this?  I have been told that the SMOT does not give much of a push but I have seen the videos where the sphere runs uphill and shoots off the end of the ramp. I just need a very slight pulse/push to close the loop on the gravity wheel and I think this might do it...but, maybe not.  Thoughts?

BIll

[Low-Q]

A SMOT in a closed loop you'll find that the sum of all forces acting on the rotor is 0. Then you have loss in the bearings and air resistance. Gravity works the same way. It takes the same energy to lift an item 1 meter as it release when you drop the same item frim 1 meter high.

SMOT does seam to work because the SMOT is activated in just partial of the closed loop, and where the sum of all forces is greater than 0 - hence the promising result.

I'm afraid your idea will never work.

Br.

Vidar

[Joh70]

Only for information: i beleave in gravity wheels! But i need more time, to proof it.

[Pirate88179]

Low-Q:

I agree with what you state however I don't think you understand what I am proposing. I wish I had the drafting software to make up a sketch.  When I say, "closed loop" with the SMOT, I intended to mean utilizing the very small amount of output from the SMOT to make the wheel go past the 12:00 position thereby effectively closing the loop for the cycle to begin again. I have been told the SMOT puts out very little, this should be all I need although you may be correct and this may not be enough. I don't believe it is possible to "overbalance" a wheel without a pulse from an exterior source.  The SMOT was where I was thinking of obtaining this pulse. I know that the pulse created by the SMOT will be nulled by the "sticking point" unless gravity is used as in the videos I have seen. This is what I am proposing.  Anyway, it won't take much time or money to explore this and I should have my materials by next week so, I will see. Equilibrium may still rule. If nothing else, it keeps me out of trouble. (Smile)

Bill

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Bill,

Have a look here.

http://student.ccbcmd.edu/%7Enorman/pendulumtonoon.mpg

Hans von Lieven