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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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DrStiffler

Quote from: allcanadian on January 18, 2008, 02:09:14 PM
@RStiffler
I read my post and realized how one sided it sounded, I don't suppose to understand much of this nor the greater implications, I am learning --- progressing and that is what is important.

QuoteComments on your DC question; I have seen some of the wars when this question is asked. Like is varying DC really AC or is only AC real AC, what games we play. If a varying DC can induce a current in a transformer secondary in my mind it is AC. This business of AC having to pass through the magical or arbitrary (0) zero is wrong. What is zero but an arbitrary convience  for mathematics, but when is zero really zero? Another way to get the troops stirred up is to bring up the question of Negative Frequency. Seems reverse time is fine but reverse frequency is Duh!.

I am learning to see all that you speak of (AC-DC) as Tesla did, there is no AC/DC there is a disturbance in the media, this disturbance has different properties and qualities relative to it's period of oscillation and potential. It has different properties and qualities relative to the medium it may interact with, its resistance, inductance, density and geometry. AC and DC are "currents" one varies over time where the other would appear not to, I don't confuse the issue by saying they are different, I think we have confused the properties of interaction with qualities.
GOD! Stephan fix this site........................

This is the third time I have tried to answer a post and we go to LaLa LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@allcanadian
Sorry I did not mean to imply anything, I think you are headed in the right direction. Could we talk off line??? THis site is getting bad for me, just can not get reliable contact.

Learning?? Hey is that not the name of the game, we learn our whole life, what just to die???

Hey Mr. c---101 love the fact you think my work is Dead dead dead, at least you have an audience on other threads  >:( Like I said some time ago, a Spade is a Spade!!!!
All things are possible but some are impractical.

amigo

@RStiffler, allcanadian

please don't go off-line to talk about this, the rest of us will not be able to read and participate then and it is a good discussion that goes beyond normal conventions and into the fluidic properties of the Aether.

Thanks !

amigo

Quote from: RStiffler on January 18, 2008, 01:29:44 PM
Comments on your DC question; I have seen some of the wars when this question is asked. Like is varying DC really AC or is only AC real AC, what games we play. If a varying DC can induce a current in a transformer secondary in my mind it is AC. This business of AC having to pass through the magical or arbitrary (0) zero is wrong. What is zero but an arbitrary convience  for mathematics, but when is zero really zero? Another way to get the troops stirred up is to bring up the question of Negative Frequency. Seems reverse time is fine but reverse frequency is Duh!.

I'd like to comment on this because I feel it is necessary to repeat over and over again for everyone (including and especially myself because I noticed lately I presume things too much) that readings we get on our meters are not real. In this case specifically the oscilloscope which flattens the 3rd (and maybe other) dimension(s) and totally destroys the meaning of wave's real propagation.

There must not be such thing as zero because the axis the "wave" passes through is imaginary (our fabrication). In actuality the wave does not cross any axes but spirals on and on and on in an endless vortex, in whichever direction signal is propagating (or omni-directional even).
And yet we choose to view that propagation from a side as a projection so that we can picture and measure the wave in a more conventional (to us) way, while at the same time losing the reality of the motion (and being fine with it, which is so terribly wrong :) ).

The above is constantly bugging me to the point that I'm at the brink of devoting time in developing a computer graphics solution to represent signals in real-time OpenGL 3D environment with free camera motion just so that the motion is more precisely described. God knows we have some really powerful and cheap graphics cards available to us nowadays that we just need the brainpower to get it done...

allcanadian

@RStiffler
If we are to progress on this course I think we need to understand "what" we are dealing with and in this respect we need to hear it from someone who knows---- Tesla.

QuoteThe study of such rapidly alternating currents is very interesting.  Nearly every experiment discloses something new.  Many results may, of course, be, predicted, but many more are unforeseen.  The experimenter makes many interesting observations.  For instance, we take a piece of iron and hold it against a magnet.  Starting from low alternations and running up higher and higher we feel the impulses succeed each other faster and faster, get weaker and weaker, and finally disappear.  We then observe a continuous pull; the pull, of course, is not continuous; it only appears so to us; our sense of touch is imperfect.
We may next establish an arc between the electrodes and observe, as the alternations rise, that the note which accompanies alternating arcs gets shriller and shriller, gradually weakens, and finally ceases.  The air vibrations, of course, continue, but they are too weak to be perceived; our sense of hearing fails us.

Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

DrStiffler

All things are possible but some are impractical.