Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[aether22]

This is HOW you KNOW! Everything else is YOU ENGINEERING your own devices and saying they are Dr. Stiffler's. Have a little humility for God's sake and try to learn.

Jim

I don't think that is addressed to me but it is unclear.

It is worth noting however that Stiffler didn't invent the AV plug (it runs on devices other than a SEC), and also that Stiffler claims that plain AC won't work to run a plug.

This strongly suggests (but does not demand) that plugs are all run from the same excitation of _____  and that a SEC might be both powerful and efficient in comparison to other methods.
That is what I think/guess Stiffler believes since he is the one that states that plugs seemingly need this kind of excitation.

In other words my guess is that some SEC effects MAY be gained with a non SEC device, such a device may not be easy to make either, or be as effective and it would likely use more energy. (And I was only considering it as an alternative until I could get a SEC)

So that's my guess about what Stiffler seems to believe and at any rate it is my thinking on the subject, but I am far from convinced that engineering a powerful alternative would be easy nor that all the effects would transfer.

If you disagree with the reasoning that is fine.

[aether22]

something I saw is driving me nuts and I have to prove what I see is real,

Sounds interesting! Sounds typical of this kind of thing.

[pomodoro]

Guys instead of fighting over how and if this works, how about we concentrate on what we do know. We know the AV plug allows the RF to turn into a useful power source. Why has no one built a decent one that can power a 10W or more lightbulb. What is stopping you?  Seems like most are waiting for the Doc to dish out more and more. Get a bigger transistor, or a tube and do some more tests.  I want to know 2 things, does the power come from the oscillator - the most probable source, or does it get sucked in with little or no work - unlikely but who knows.    Lets get our elbows dirty again until this thing is proven to be OU (after all this forum is about OU) or just an interesting circuit.

[scraven]

I have a request for anyone who can wrangle dry ice regarding the wireless fluro lighting to run the demo again but in a dry ice cloud. This is because any ionic winds or strings MAY clear things up a bit, pun intended. Not only do I not have access to dry ice but all my time is tied up in building and testing an alternative to the SEC that functions in an identical way but aids in an explanation  (I wont bother you with the details unless I get results that are interesting and similar to the Dr's results). But the dry ice thing is just a thought, I'm NOT demanding anything 

[Loki67671]

@aether22

I don't think that is addressed to me but it is unclear.

It is worth noting however that Stiffler didn't invent the AV plug (it runs on devices other than a SEC), and also that Stiffler claims that plain AC won't work to run a plug.

This strongly suggests (but does not demand) that plugs are all run from the same excitation of _____  and that a SEC might be both powerful and efficient in comparison to other methods.
That is what I think/guess Stiffler believes since he is the one that states that plugs seemingly need this kind of excitation.

In other words my guess is that some SEC effects MAY be gained with a non SEC device, such a device may not be easy to make either, or be as effective and it would likely use more energy. (And I was only considering it as an alternative until I could get a SEC)

So that's my guess about what Stiffler seems to believe and at any rate it is my thinking on the subject, but I am far from convinced that engineering a powerful alternative would be easy nor that all the effects would transfer.

If you disagree with the reasoning that is fine.

Sounds interesting! Sounds typical of this kind of thing.

I'm Cool on all of the points above!  I know that AV plugs are not Dr. Stifflers invention. But I am here investigating Dr. Stifflers work and SEC specifically is his invention, and that is why I am adamant about it. I agree that there are many things we do not understand and need to investigate. The idea here is try and understand and replicate SEC. It is perfectly OK to start other threads also...right? That was my point! NO attack on anybody, no offense intended to anyone or taken by me. I have more than I can handle on my plate right now.  Lets get on with changing the world. Dr Stiffler is I'll bet! 

Best regards,

Jim