Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

BTW:

using "jamming" broadband waveform for electrolysis
is awesome. I really love that.

rgds.

[gotoluc]

Thanks nickle989.
I also think that resonance will be a key factor in a productive HHO cell.  However I fell to achieve that we will have to use a more natural geometry,  maybe like a sphere shape container with a centerred resonating anode, more like the Keely stuff.

Luc
Added: here is a link to a video of what I believe to be a real working model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxnEQssJ4FQ

Hi all,

I was looking on ebay for those graphite cells plates that I saw a while back and look what I found: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Moe-Joe-Cell-HHO-HYDROGEN-GENERATOR-free-energy_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33609QQihZ004QQitemZ140236555418QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW  They are called Moe Joe cell and they are stainless spheres just like I mentioned above. I did not know about these till now, I think it would be worth it to look into this and mostly try it with the Dr.'s circuit.

The ebay page has links to video's also.

I think you may want to get a set of these Doc.

Added: this is another one to look into, ebay seller claims Production has been recorded at 1 litre per minute with no electrolyte or caustic in the water, at 2 amps 12 v DC His link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260244422631&rd=1

This could be considering to geometry of the cell.

Luc

[nickle989]

Hi Luc,
your plates still have storred H3O+ and
OH- ions inside the metal molecule lattices,
so the plates are still charged..

You can do this much better with graphite plates,
as these store still a much bigger amout of gas-ions
in their lattice.

Regards, Stefan.

@Stefan
So what you are saying, has he got a 'Joe Cell' running here, via the stainless? Maybe I was thinking wrong. I was looking back to the water charging we did, humm...

Okay, sound good, but still very, very interesting.

The Joe cell, in my opinion is not as true as what Joe says.  The plates/water are holding a charge just like a capacitor will ... when pulse discharged between the freq's coming in should be able to start a chain ... to store H3O+ one would need something better then SS at least I can't see it ..
@gotoluc - what is the SS 304 - 316 ? low carb etc
a high nickel content would provide nice reactions or platnium coated ...

A while back some lab was creating hho with a gamma ray and self ignititing it, they had to mess with the freq's though to do it.  Way to much power being used to make it sustainable but nice insite.  I can see the SEC being able to go a better route. 

@Dr. Stiffler ... do you have any spectrum analysis charts that you could share?   

@gotoluc ... if you have some SS tubes or just some SS bowls from the dollar store try it out just to see on the shape's relationship with the SEC
On the plate arangement use the BB series design just a lead on one plate end and the other on the other end plate ( + p p p p p p p p p -)

[DrStiffler]

The Joe cell, in my opinion is not as true as what Joe says.  The plates/water are holding a charge just like a capacitor will ... when pulse discharged between the freq's coming in should be able to start a chain ... to store H3O+ one would need something better then SS at least I can't see it ..
@gotoluc - what is the SS 304 - 316 ? low carb etc
a high nickel content would provide nice reactions or platnium coated ...

A while back some lab was creating hho with a gamma ray and self ignititing it, they had to mess with the freq's though to do it.  Way to much power being used to make it sustainable but nice insite.  I can see the SEC being able to go a better route. 

@Dr. Stiffler ... do you have any spectrum analysis charts that you could share?   

@gotoluc ... if you have some SS tubes or just some SS bowls from the dollar store try it out just to see on the shape's relationship with the SEC
On the plate arangement use the BB series design just a lead on one plate end and the other on the other end plate ( + p p p p p p p p p -)

@nickle989
Spectral Diagram, yes, but for what combination of settings? See there are three major things that affect the bandwidth and the fundamental fp'. These three things are; 1) the base cap and coil 2) the supply voltage 3) the load. In an ideal system a change in load or supply voltage can be offset by adjustment of the base coil, also leaving the base coil in a set position and changing the supply voltage will shift fp' and increase or decrease the overall bandwidth.

Because of these conditions and interactions it would be very hard to say or set a specific set of conditions in an experimental unit. I resort to using an SA. When a variable is changed the result is readily seen and adjustment can be made to bring it back to a desired state.

If you have received your board you have a link to a (.pdf) that show a sample SA representation.

[DrStiffler]

@gotoluc
Did you disconnect the 22uH choke just after the neon points from which you are pulling the drive? If you have or have not of course would affect how much energy you have to work with. Because the LEDs and neon seem extinguished I am assuming you did the disconnect. Have you considered adding the paracitic plate to increase the drive.