Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

[Pirate88179]

@ Localjoe:

Good to hear from you.  Yes, it's cold here too. (27 degrees f as I write this)  Almost too cold for experimenting...ha ha.  Best of luck to you on your device, pretty ambitious but, not out of reach in my opinion.  My leds from China have not arrived yet!!!  My goal is to see how many I can light with what I have, and then, to explore a series circuit, and then, to attempt the op amp or whatever circuits that have been posted with the use of coils and pulses.  I could use a little help with the series set up though.  I tried it once and, although I know what series and parallel are in theory, I am not quite sure how to apply that to 4 electrodes in the ground with 2 positive and 2 neg.  If I cross over and tie the left cell + to the right cell - it will be a short.  Should I tie the +'s together and then the -'s and then take a reading?  Or, should I put leads on all of the electrodes and bring them together on my meter?  I am learning as I go here but, I have made circuits in parallel and series before so I know what that is.  I just don't know how to apply that with my electrodes.  Any help would be appreciated.

My original led still lights from the single cell and yes, I am using a carbon rod mail ordered from a welding supply shop here in town.  I am not a chemist but graphite and carbon are very close to the same I think.  I believe the carbon is more "pure" for whatever that is worth.

@ akashh:

I am just guessing but using flower pots, or trays with dirt would be leaning more toward galvanic action rather than obtaining any additional input from the telluric currents alleged to be in the earth.  I am watching closely for any deterioration of my electrodes which would mean that they are being used up as in a normal battery.  So far, none observed but that does not mean it is not happening. Again, I saw the best result when I aligned the electrodes with the + to the north and the - to the south on the north/south meridian which is different from magnetic north and south.  How much different depends on your location on the planet.  For me, here in Kentucky at my location, there is a 3 degree difference between magnetic north and polar north.  I read this on the internet as part of our research and it is posted in the earlier part of the thread somewhere.  It does work for me to do this however, if someone else posts results that are better east and west, then who am I to argue?

@ Jeanna:

I am also following the pyramid experiments as well.  I am intrigued by the use of silica/quartz/sand as this also ties into other research being done by Hutchison and others.  There is quartz in the earth all over the world as it is the number one most naturally occurring mineral on the planet.  Maybe for a reason?  Who knows.  I read the post, I believe Hans put up (link to 10 pages or so) and I feel like 2toxic4u's video was an excellent example of a good replication of that information.  I wish I lived near a beach as I would love to try my cell there and see if it would work in dry sand and just tap into any available telluric currents.  That would be a great control experiment to do.  Dry sand without any electrolite present...water, salt, etc.

@Artic Knight:

I have seen those grounding rods here in town and no one could tell me what type of metal they were.  One guy said "copper" but it was obvious to me they were just plated on the o.d. (outside diameter)  He asked how I knew that and I told him..."the price".  They were like $8 and if they were solid copper would be more like $100.00.  A guy in an earlier posted video used one and a copper pipe and said he was getting 2 amps!!!!  I hope this is correct.  I have not obtained any real amps as of yet.  I do believe that with all of these great minds here, we will press on and figure this all out.  Then what?  Who knows.....

Bill

[Pirate88179]

Also, @ Nightlife:

I agree with your theories about magnetic fields.  How this might benefit us is anyone's guess at the moment.  I would suggest that you attempt a simple earth battery cell and apply your ideas to it.  I think you might be on to something but I am now following a "plan" based upon my past results and readings.  That is what this is for, this forum, I believe.  No sense in everyone doing the exact same experiments unless it is for the purpose of replicating/confirming others results.  Try it and please let us know of your results.  If promising, I have shifted gears before and will do so again and will follow.  Thanks.

@Georgemay:

I am not sure that you would need that early example of an insulator to replicate Stubblefield's device.  I don't see what would be wrong with using today's, advanced, insulated wire for this.  That is what is amazing to me about all of this.  Can you imagine what Tesla, Stubblefield, Helmholtz and other might do with the materials and devices available to us today?  Let others more up to speed on this advise you but I don't think it would change anything for the worse, only better in my opinion.

Bill

[georgemay]

@Georgemay:

I am not sure that you would need that early example of an insulator to replicate Stubblefield's device. 
Bill

Bill,
The only difference between todays and earlier insulators was ability of the moisture to penetrate it.  I read somewhere that coil needs sometimes more than a week to be buried to allow for the "saturation".  What saturation we don't know.  That could be moisture saturation.   If  Stubblefield bifillar coil act as capacitor on the on the other hand (Thanks Hans for suggestion)  then todays magnet's wire insulation might be to thin to allow for the proper spacing.  I have seen movie on YouTube where a guy use magnet wire and sand off insulation to expose copper wire.  The experiment didn't bring any significant effects.

If I won't find the right wire then the only option left would be to wind both wire bare with a fishing line or cotton string between them to act as insulator.
George

[Pirate88179]

@ georgemay:

I see what you are saying.  I also agree with Hans that possibly this acting as a capacitor of some sort and by "saturate" Stubblefield might have meant with electricity, building up a charge.  As I have stated many times, I am not an electronics or electrical expert by any means and am still learning every day but, please correct me if I am wrong, if you have a cotton insulator that becomes wet with a conductive fluid (water) would that not just short the works as if there were no insulator at all?  I know that you can buy cotton tubing in various sizes (I.D and O.D.) and it comes on a roll.  We used to have some at our machining facility years ago.  You could thread some of that over a bare wire to replicate the older type wire assembly.  The size we had would have been perfect for covering say a 16 ga. bare wire.  I can not remember what the heck we ever bought it for but we were doing some weird stuff in those days. (1975-1994)  Possibly an electrical supply house could order it if you can't find it on the net.

So, maybe the cotton acts as an insulator or semi-insulator when wet and when between the conductors...presto...capacitor.  As you start to make your coil, I would love to see pictures of it if you could post some.

Bill

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

I am not at all certain that the galvanic action is necessary for the operation of the coil. If it is there is a way to make the coil without having to resort to cotton sheathed wire.

You MUST use bare copper and iron wire!

Wind your two wires on a coil former one layer at a time making sure the wires don't touch.

Make up a small batch of paper mache and paint the layer with that. Leave to dry and paint again if necessary to make sure there is a layer of paper mache between the wires everywhere, wind your next layer and repeat the process. This will give you your galvanic element.

Toilet paper makes an excellent paper mache.

Hans von Lieven