Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Fausto,
great new circuit.
0.2 mA means 0.0002 Amperes,
that is 200 MikroAmperes.

At this current level these bright white LEDs already have a nice
luminance , but they don?t yet light up the room !


You are right with your 750 hours run time,
so you would have to wait about a month to see,
what is going on.

It will probably run much longer...

All these pulse circuits and especially
the Bedini and Newman circuits have the effect to
change the internal structure of batteries.
Due to the high backEMF voltages they pulse onto the
battery poles, the inner plates or electrode material will
become more porous and this way it will get more surface.
But more surface also means this battery will be able to
release more energy to the output.

Tom Bearder says, that the Bedini pulsers convert ZPE this way directly
inside the batteries and charge them up this way, but I have seen no long time study yet,
how long the batteries last and what batteries wouldbe best for this ZPE converter
effect.
But I have seen it too, when I played with the Markus Wagner circuit,
that I could enhance the capacity of my NiMH batteries very much
and charged via this circuit they lastest in a camera much longer
than before by using a normal battery charger.

Fausto, can you only get the battery charging effect at 0.2 mA or
can you get it also at a different higher current level ?

Does it onlywork,if you have insertedthis analog amperemeter
or does it also work without it ?
Where exactly did you connect into the circuit the amperemeter ?
This could be important as it acts like a choke...

Also the gate of the MOSFET works as a capacitive antenna, especially
in your breadboard experimentation board,where it has around 20 to 50 pF
capacitance versus your source and drain,
so maybe you just try to use such a capacitor to couple it directly to another
part via it...
Use a twisted wire pair capacitor, if you need low capacitances...so you can
control the capacitance in the pF range.

What is this circuit doing, if you remove ( shortout)  the MOSFET ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Megla]

Hi, I am new.
Finally go something in the correct direction. It's very intresting device.
I saw the movie from Joseph Newman. He is running car on same way.
I have to praise everybody who are doing somethig good for humanity.

Best to all

[plengo]

@hartiberlin
I think your explanation is the one that pleases me most. After trying many, many different designs this was the one the stands the most.

Fausto, can you only get the battery charging effect at 0.2 mA or
can you get it also at a different higher current level ?

For this one yes. I am trying another one with 20+ LEDs to see exactly that, if it can run with much higher current and still charge up. THis way, if succesfull, I could run may be my TV? (Connectin 50 of those together).

Does it onlywork,if you have insertedthis analog amperemeter
or does it also work without it ?
Where exactly did you connect into the circuit the amperemeter ?
This could be important as it acts like a choke...

It works without the meter better. I only inserted the meter so that I could satisfy our inquiries.
I connected between the source of the mosfet and the first D1 (see my diagram) , in other words, all the LEDs are fed through this meter. So real current measurement.

Also the gate of the MOSFET works as a capacitive antenna, especially
in your breadboard experimentation board,where it has around 20 to 50 pF
capacitance versus your source and drain,

And you are right. I tried that two. Many different capacitance up to picos. My hand was the best. For the new circuit I connect the gate to the base of the transistor. But again, this only worked after trying at least 5 different mosfets. This circuit is not a very good for mass production since it depends on very specific qualities of the parts.

What is this circuit doing, if you remove ( shortout)  the MOSFET ?

It will simply stop. Now, another version of mine is running inside a cage and in that version I have no mosfet but 2 transistor one PNP and the other NPN.
[EDIT] now looking at my notes I see that at first it will not run, but touching here and there, changing caps and voila it will run full power. Drainning the battery like a river.
With the other version using PNP and NPN I could find a sweet spot where it runs just enough to not drain the battery and still light the LEDs.



@btentzer

With such small current being used, one can not say quite yet, based on the volts rising, that the battery is being charged.  My metal hydride battery, goes up super fast in voltage when hooked to the oscillator.  The oscillator speeds that rise time up.  But does it add amperage to the battery?  We need to find some controlled test to determine that.  From what I have seen today in testing, these batteries will never show zero volts, and it is very easy to see the voltage rise, when not hooked to any circuit.  When hooked to an oscillator, the rise time is much, much quicker.  But we need amperage in the battery to convince that it is being truly charged, IMHO.

I think you right. But hey, LOL, if it will run my LEDS for 500 days I could put 100s of these dead batteries and may be run my computer. 

I am definetly having fun. Thanks to you guys. This forum is very fun.

Now, Lets see the voltages: .... 8.14v Ops I better remove the meter. It is draining more than it should. LOL again.

Fausto.

[EDIT]
Voltage now is 8.16v and rising. I removed the meter. BTW the other one with 20 LED has on voltage on D1 = 2.47v, D2 = 2.67v and current on all is 1ma.

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Plengo
I like the idea of 20 LED's lit, using only .0053 watts per hour!  LOL

Are they lit about a third of their brightness, also?

[hakware]

Each LED under full power of 3.4V will draw on the average 25mA  that is 1/2 Amp  or 500mA or .5AH (thats 20 LED's)
If the LED's are under FULL power draw at 3.4V that equates to 1.7Watts Draw