Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?

[b0rg13]

oh its you again , you seem to be like my own personal stalker, like i said in the other forum, go play on a highway k?

[sharpstick]

 as much as i would love to see(and own!)  overunity technology,  it occurs to me that it does have its drawbacks. in a perfect world, with perfect people,  this would be a wonderful thing.
  (first off, i can understand why TPTB would not want to see such a thing, even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they have our best interests at heart, i can understand why they would want to suppress it. it would INSTANTLY destabilize the economy by making all the current electric, transportation industries obsolete.)
assuming that free energy could be spread worldwide to all peoples, this would enable irrigating the deserts, growing unlimited food, reducing pollution. this would allow people whose population has been limited by natural conditions to prosper and have as many children as they want. within a few generations, this would lead to gross overpopulation. only deliberate self control would prevent that and from observing our history, there is no reason to believe the human race would suddenly do any such thing.
just playing devil's advocate.
billy sharpstick

[Bessler007]

shruggedatlas,

The b0rg is right.  I represent the interests of the illuminati and big oil.  The illuminati can't figure out how to tax free energy so they want to keep that from the people and big oil has all the capital investment in infrastructure and couldn't stand the loss.

If my bosses figure out how to tax it and sell their equipment (so someone else can take the loss) this idea should be on the market faster than your bessler wheel can spin.  You have my word on it.

It's my job to sabotage demonstrations like Steorn?s and in rare cases I have to do things I really can't mention.  It does get ugly but b0rg has it exactly right. 

the human race has all the tech it needs and then some but its kept from us when its stumbled across, we dont really need to come up with new ideas or scams, we have it all its just hidden from us, the real effort should be put on the so called ppl in power to release it and start putting them in prision for life if they dont and setting up teams apon teams of ppl to find it and put it on the net, look how far science has so called come latley, not far at all, 40ish years ago we goto the moon(so they say).........yet in the last 35 years we have not ?(so they say),tech didnt suddenly stop, its all hidden from us., its funny tho we chose to ignore it and do nothing but try to reinvent the wheel.,no wonder its taken away from us, we let it be that way.

[FunkyJive]

Hi Sharpstick.

Indeed we concur - as per my former post in this thread.

As I mentioned, the global economy is fundamentally dependent on the consumption of fossil fuels, though what sustains that (and the heavy taxes levied on fuel) is our dependency on such fuels.

It's not difficult to imagine the scenario, if such a reconstructible Over-Unity device were allowed to fall into the domain of Joe Public. At that point all dependency and control by governments and those that sustain this economy would be lost forever.

I've been involved in many patents in my time (with a global patent to my name), where for the UK at-least the rule is that inventions of any nature are subject to potential classification of "Military Interest", which could arguably apply to any ground-breaking invention. In such cases your invention is siezed by the government for which you can expect nothing by way of compensation. Furthermore, disclosing any such invention thereafter would be regarded as disclosing military secrets which could put you away for a very long time (or worse!).

I'm not suggesting that Steorn actually had something, but their aggressive drive for recognition and public disclosure to the media and the scientific community would certainly lay themselves open to extremely aggressive silencing tactics of this nature. It would not be necessary to "pay them off" with this approach enshrined in law, and a paid contract of silence that was subsequently breached would render a significant court battle likely to emerge into the public domain - raising very awkward questions and media disclosures in the process. Aggressive silencing tactics by threats would therefore be more likely than a financial settlement.

This therefore has to be considered amongst the many other possibilities as to the events surrounding the failure of the device just at the worst possible time, the retention of any IPR to speak of, and the prevailing silence with respect to their invention. For those amongst us prepared to accept the possibility of hitherto undiscovered science and keeping an open (though objective) viewpoint, it's not possible to argue that their invention was a sham simply because if it worked we would have seen or heard something before now.

Nowadays, coming up with a groundbreaking idea or discovery, of any merit or for any purpose, is not enough to guarantee success. Either way, I believe that Steorn had a good team of committed engineers, scientists, and investors, but whatever the nature and effectiveness of their idea the way in which they chose to promote it almost guaranteed a path to eventual failure - one way or the other.

I would therefore always suggest a note of caution to inventors with interests in this field, particularly those that would choose to retain IPR for potential profit and not immediately throw their ideas open to the internet community for wider exploration and knowledge-sharing. That would be infinitely more difficult to suppress, and some inventions that I have seen to-date do appear to pose some very interesting questions that would doubtless attract the attentions of the "MIB's".


All the best,

FunkyJive.

[b0rg13]

all he has to do  is publish his plans on the net for us all to try , and show some videos................... ....